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[Boxing] Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Juan Manuel Marquez

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by bladeage, Sep 6, 2009.

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Who wins?

Poll closed Sep 20, 2009.
  1. Mayweather by KO/TKO

    20.0%
  2. Mayweather by decision

    55.6%
  3. Marquez by KO/TKO

    13.3%
  4. Marquez by decision

    11.1%
  1. KingCheetah

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    Total domination by Mayweather sets up one the biggest fights in the past couple of decades ... if Pacman takes care of business.
     
  2. SwoLy-D

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    Nice. Are there any pictures of Mayweather running around and putting up his shoulder up the entire fight? :confused:

    I kid. I know, he won, it's what matters. You can't punch what is not there. It's just that it was such a fixed fight and we all know it. They told Marquez no to throw uppercuts at all... he fought so much differently than against Díaz... but I know FM is a lot better than JD. :eek: It's just my speculation... no rumors... y'all can dismiss my comments...
     
  3. MadMax

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    are you kidding me??

    mayweather is 100x quicker than marquez. of course it looks different than how you'd fight diaz. diaz couldn't hold floyd's jock. and i LOVE diaz.
     
  4. coolweather

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    600,000 USD fine? if you can afford to pay for it, fine, that's no cheating.


    :rolleyes: there's something wrong with the boxing system :rolleyes:

    well if JMM didn't complain about it cuz he got paid, then it's really no cheating.

    Who cheated then?

    The entire team of promoters cheated on teh people who paid to watch a fair fight. But some people paid to watch an expected massacre, not a boxing match. For them, it was not cheating. That's easy.

    Well, I refused to get cheated on so I cheated too. I watched the fight without paying anything. I"m not going to give my hard-earned mula to cheaters. :p
     
  5. bladeage

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    Yes it will be free on HBO.

    And all this cheating bull**** has to stop. You act like Floyd came in weighing 160 pounds.

    The bull**** catch weight agreement was 144. But Marquez still signed the contract at 147.

    Regardless.. you guys can't tell me that if Floyd would have came in 2 pounds lighter, that the fight would have been any different? Any weight you put these 2 at, Floyd kills him. What Floyd did last night had nothing to do with weight, it was pure skill and complete domination of Marquez. Plain and simple.
     
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  6. Cowboy_Bebop

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    I think Marquez gaining so much weight didn't help him. It's kinda slow him down.
     
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  7. coolweather

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    NO question about domniation. Even in the contract terms, total domination.
     
  8. MadMax

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    rep points for you.

    this was an absolute ass-whomping. marquez never won a round.

    floyd landed around 60% of his punches ....marquez landed about 12%
     
  9. v3.0

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    I was kinda being facetious, what mentioned it 3 times already...
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    I think it's a little unfair to only pick on Mayweather for having "hand-picked opponents" designed to make him look good. Sure he soes that, but he's not alone.

    One might say that both Cotto and Hattan were also exactly the kind of opponent that would make Pacquiao look good (while selling a lot of tickets and PPVs). Both guys are bigger, which makes Pac look really good if he beats them down. Both are poplular (esp. among the ethnic following of PR/Brits) and have a great reputation for being fierce fighters. And both are also the kind of aggressive fighers who are liable to get hit hurt. I watched Cotto vs. Magarito and Cotto v. Clottey and suspect that Cotto never quite recovered from the beating he took from Margatrio's plaster-enhanced fists.

    (By the way, I don't quite remember since when Pac became a huge enough draw to start hand-picking guys... maybe only after De la Hoya?)

    Anyhow, you can't blame a guy for making what's they think is the right business decision for his career. It's just that Floyd's decision re: opponents is frustrating for fans.
     
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    Nobody's arguing that. At least I'm not. The weight issue is more about Floyd's overall character than anything else. Floyd already has several advantages even before the weight, but he can't rest on that, he has to come in at the weight he really wanted to fight at anyway. And yes, to answer your question, the process of having to lose two pounds would have had a tremendous effect on the fight. 2 pounds is extremely significant.
     
  12. SirCharlesFan

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    IT WASN'T A FINE. It was a stipulation that BOTH men contractually agreed to. It if unfathomable that people can't understand this. People agree to stipulations like this in all walks of life whether in sports, construction, entertainment, or a litany of other business deals.
     
  13. bladeage

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    this clearly shows the diffrence in size and weight. Shame on you promoters.
     
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    Did you see mosley almost knock that cheaters ear drums out last fight?
     
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    I have no doubt a prime Mosley would dispatch Mayweather easily. As impressive as Mosley's last win was, he's not getting any younger and has had nearly a year off from a fight. He still has a good chance to beat Floyd but Floyd will never fight him.
     
  17. King1

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    Give it a rest. JMM took this fight for a pay day. Nothing more, nothing less. It wouldn't have mattered if Floyd had made 144. The outcome would have been the same. Anyone who knows boxing couldn't have figured JMM would win more then 4 rounds max. He's nothing beyond 135. Zab Judah would have been a live dog against him at 140.

    To those calling for Pac/PBF, be careful what you ask for. If you're frustrated with this fight, you'll be frustrated again. Manny is too small and Floyd will light him up. Morales was catching him clean so imagine what Floyd will do.

    Shane's entrance in the ring was completely staged. He's going to end up fighting Berto in January. Shane passed on a fight with Floyd a while back. He asked for 10 million to fight him. The only person who can beat Floyd is Paul Williams and Floyd wouldn't take that fight for 20 million.

    The only good thing that came out of this weekend was GBP signing Linares. He's going to be a star.
     
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    Floyd has always fought like that. He tucks his chin behind his shoulder. James Toney is the best example in our recent history to compare that tactic with. It's not a coincidence they are both Michigan boys.

    Fixed fight? LMAO. It was only your boy taking his paycheck. JMM deserves it. He's a warrior and he's paid his dues. It's great to see him getting a 4 million dollar check. That being said, he knew the same as anyone else did that he was not winning this fight. He cashed in. Good for him. Most boxers don't get that chance. If he fooled you into believing he could win on 24/7, well.....that's on you.
     
  19. KingCheetah

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    You guys' whining about a couple of pounds need to watch the heavyweights fight sometime where a 30 pound weight difference isn't uncommon. I know weight effects the smaller guys more, but a couple of pounds is not going to make any difference.

    Mayweather dominated with skill -- a few extra pounds did not make any difference in the outcome. For recent proof look at Pacman vs. De La Hoya.
     
  20. MoBalls

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    Floyd owned Marquez throughout the whole fight. Marquez didnt have a chance. I like the whole incident after the fight and would like to see Mosley and Mayweather fight.....in the 90's. Sugar is not in his prime anymore so he may be trying to get paid. Mayweather = $$$$
     

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