What If Yao does not come back and we are stuck with Luis and Bosh down low? We STILL would need to find a CENTER!!!
Not a big fan of Bosh. Would rather deal with Minny to get Jefferson, or even stand pat with Scola/Hill and get Rubio from them instead.
What if you don't get Bosh, Yao does not come back and we are stuck with just Luis down low? Basically, getting Bosh without gutting our team is a no brainer, you do it without hesitation. The center issue is one that won't go away, period. Heck, imagine if we got Bosh and then still used part of our MLE for a backup center? Or drafted one? Come on people, think stuff through.
Getting Bosh would require us to give up less assets than to get Jefferson due to Bosh agreeing to a S&T. Plus, Bosh is a waaaaay better player than Jefferson! Bosh can start at Powerfoward and back up at Center. Also he is a better defender, perimeter and post scorer, and rebounder. Why go for the stars when you can go for the moon?
Convincing Bosh to choose Houston over Chicago or OKC may be the hardest thing. Both those teams with Bosh would become instant contenders. But then I suppose we could too, and we could offer more money via a sign n trade. But damn, if Morey can pull this out w/o trading Brooks, then holy ****
I'd love Bosh but I wouldn't mind taking the pass on him, Morey could go down so many different roads with all the assets. I wish we could wait a few days into free agency and see how the Knicks are doing (hopefully failing), if they do poorly then we can dangle (or keep), in a best case scenario, the 2nd and 6th overall picks in the next two drafts. Harrison Barnes? :grin:
According to what I've read, Bosh wants to play in a big city and be a #1 option. He would satisfy neither of those in OKC.
Good luck finding a center after you trade what will likely be two fantastic draft picks from the Knicks, and a solid, young, defensive big in Jordan Hill...
It's clear as day Bosh isn't interested in OKC. As far as Chicago, the Rockets were a better team than the Bulls this year - without Yao - so I highly doubt the Bulls would have any kind of advantage (in fact, they'd be at a disadvantage relative to the Rockets) as far as offering a contender. It's far too early for "I told you so", but I've been trying to tell you guys for months that the Rockets had plenty of assets for a guy like Bosh without having to include Brooks, Martin or Scola. In fact, in Toronto's case, packages centered around cap space (see Dallas/Dampier) aren't of much value at all, because they admittedly aren't major free agency players due to the difficulty in luring elite talent to Canada. Sure, there's still some value - obviously, the owner would rather have $7 mil in his pocket than pay it out to Jared Jeffries next year - but in general, Toronto is going to want young, controlled assets. Good luck to other teams trying to top the Rockets in that. All that said, Morey will still have to convince Bosh that this is where he should want to play. But if he does, I really don't think a S&T agreement would be that difficult.
No, won't happen. That's why he's coming armed with videos this time. He's learned what he needs, and that's a visual, to create a more powerful pitch. I think he messed up on the Gortat move by not announcing his visit and catching him in his PJs. He also didn't have visual aid with him. To me, it sounds like he didn't have a complete pitch ready either. This video idea intrigues me because it sounds like he'll need MORE if he's going to pull off some sick jedi mind trick stunt like never before.
That doesn't make sense to me. We're apparently determined to bring Lowry back. The PG position is a position of strength on our team. Is Rubio that much of an improvement over Brooks? Also, doesn't Rubio have buyout issues that prohibit him from coming over next season? If so, acquring him might deter Bosh from coming here. Bosh wants to go to a team that can contend immediately. Asking him to rely on a European PG that won't even be a rookie until the 11/12 season will not go well.
The Rockets didn't lose Gortat because of the presentation, or because Gortat didn't want to be here. They lost him because the Mavs were willing to offer the full MLE, and the Rockets were not. It was all about money. I don't think the Rockets' financial offer is going to fall short in the Bosh negotiations.
You're correct they can't as part of a sign and trade. However, they can set it up as a seperate trade.
Raptors get: Battier, Ariza, Hill, Anderson Rockets get: Bosh, Turkoglu, Mensah-Bonsu Brooks/Lowry Martin/Budinger Turkoglu/Budinger Bosh/Scola Yao/Mensah-Bonsu Git er done Morey :grin:
I feel sure in not too distant future Hill + Scola will be better than bringing in Bosh. Hiil has shown that he has much potential to be developed and I would hate to trade this young talent away. Give Hill a chance to develop while Yao regains his game legs & stamina. Martin, Brooks, Hill,Ariza, Yao and Budinger need time to mesh and devalop more team chemistry.Y
One step at at time, man. Who says the Rockets are done making moves if they get Bosh? They still have the MLE, they still got other pieces that can be moved, they probably have the 2010 draft pick, too, unless whoever they pick is traded.
Too many what ifs! What if Jordan Hill continues to get better and becomes a sold 20-10 guy? What if he doesn't improve at all and is stuck being a 10-7 guy who knows how run up and down the court? It seems pretty clear to me that Morey knew the Raps were interesed in Hill and thus he aquired him from New York for the sdle purpose of trading him for Bosh. IMO, you don't pass up on an opportunity to get an all-star like Bosh. Especially if you don't have to give up either Martin, Brooks, Scola, or Yao.
The big question is if Yao will regain his form. If he does we will need a Point Guard who knows how to be firstly a play maker & secondly a scorer. At presently this is a team shortcoming. Rubio, although young, is very experienced and knows all the moves.
