Boozer to Jazz! Can Rockets make TE deal with Cavs?

Is this from radio reports?

 

I definately agree a Cavs deal could be in our future.....

How about this....
In case the Jazz decide not to match Boozer's offer, why not offer them Mo Taylor? I realize Taylor is certainly not the most appealing PF to have on your team but he could start for the Cavs and be very productive---there aren't many dominant PF's in the Eastern Conference as it is, why couldn't Taylor average 15-18 PPG and 5-8 RPG?

Some offers I thought of:
1) Taylor for Battie/Ollie
2) Taylor for Battie/Newble

-OR (unlikely, I realize)-

3) Taylor/1st round pick for Battie/Wagner

 

I guess so. A friend of mine told me that. The story was a Cleveland talkshow host interviewed some reporters from salt lake tribune(local paper?). They went to the airport to meet Kmart this morning and was told later the trip was cancelled. Then the news about Boozer out. I cannot recall all the details, but the basic point is Jazz failed twice in last year's FA market due to the restricted FA situation. To summerize it, they have tried their best to twist the contract, making sure this time Cavs have no chance matching it.

Two other things. First they said the KMart talk was never serious( does that mean he will resign with the Nets?). Second trading Z to Hawks seems to be a solution.

 

just some clarification for me please

Player and Agent lie to organization - they have integrity issues
[Boozer lying to Cleveland]

BUT
Organization lying to Players - well. . that is just business?
[JVG to Steve]



Just for clarity
However as steve, JVG, and most of here say
ITS A BUSINESS

Rocket River

 

This was interesting:
http://my.ev1.net/english/news/newsarticle.asp?articleID=28955536&subject=sports

Boozer's saying it's up to Cleveland and his agent to keep him in Cleveland. I just can't see them just letting him go for nothing, but it will be an interesting reception he gets if he stays.

So hopefully we can benefit, the Jazz get screwed and Boozer stays in the East.

 

wow... Denver just offered Ginobili the same amount.. 6 years for 68 mill...

Seems like all the talent is being spread out in the west...

 

wtf?

No way ginobli is worth that much.

 

Looks like Manu is staying in SA.

http://www.woai.com/spurs/story.aspx?content_id=157581D4-8EDA-4B7E-B467-92EBEE88870A

 

hmmmm.. interesting... there must be a lot of rumurs flying all over the place..

RealGM exclusive: By Jonathan Givony 3:23 PM

Reliable sources have confirmed today that Manu Ginobili has been offered a 6 year contract with the Denver Nuggets. Ginobili is a restricted free agent whose rights are owned by the San Antonio Spurs and if he indeed decides to sign the offer sheet they will have until July 29th to match. The offer is believed to start at $9 million dollars.

 

I don't see this is as the same thing at all...

On one hand, an organization (Cleveland) was induced into passing up an opportunity to keep a player and got screwed. Were they incompent and naive? Yes, but screwed nonetheless.

On the other hand, a player (Francis) asked if he was being shopped, JVG said no Steve, you're not being shopped, and then the TMac deal fell into the Rox' lap. Even if you make the argument that JVG lied, which is debatable, you can't say that Steve was tricked or cheated out of anything. Unless I missed something, he's making the same $ with Orlando that he would have gotten with the Rox.

And as we saw by his initial reaction to the deal, he probably should have been kept totally in the dark until the thing was inked anyways.

Totally different situation...hope that clarifies it.

 

That is an old confirmed rumor.

 

Ill take the word of Manu's agent over "reliable sources" any day of the week and twice in Sundays.

 

especially RealGM "reliable sources"

 

That perticular rule as I understood talked about combining trade exceptions and that is not what I was talking about. The problem is that I tend to nod off just a little while reading that riviting bit of writting so I am in no way claiming that I am right.

 

As Aelliot explained the TE, the ceiling is 6.9 mil. You can combine players with it, but their contract values and the balance value of the TE can add up to the 6.9 mil, and not over. It has to be thought of as a completion of a previous trade, soif you went over the 6.9 mil ceiling you would be changing the original trade that generated the TE.

 

No offense to anyone, but Boozer would need to give me 3-4 years of play similar to last year to warrant that contract.

My prediction is that Boozer never makes it to the All-Star level and remains a decent player at best.

 

Well said.

In Rox's case, the worst thing that they probably did was to keep Steve in the dark, and JVG lying (if the rumor is true). But, whatever JVG chosed to tell Steve (yes or no you are being traded), it wouldn't have changed the fact that Steve was going to be traded. So the JVG's lie didn't matter and didn't affect the outcome.

But in Cleveland's case, the lie (by Boozer's agent) DID affect the outcome (losing Boozer now). And worst of all, the liar is the one who initiated the whole thing. The agent went up to Cleveland's manager and lied to him. Not like JVG who told a simple lie when Steve went to see him.

But anyway, I don't think Boozer and his agent intended to lie in the very first place (before the free agent market begun). Both the parties (Boozer and Cleveland organization) wouldn't have predicted such a crazy and super generous market going on this year. So I think Boozer didn't lie, but changed his mind.

It's like having an accident. You promise that you will meet up with your best friend at a ball game. But your house is flooded and you can't go, sorry. Now Boozer promised to resign with Cleveland, but Jazz throws $28 million at him (68-40=28) to buyout his earlier promise. So sorry Cleveland Boozer can't resign.

I mean, if you were Boozer, look at the market. Scrubs are making MILLIONS more than you. You wouldn't feel any unfairness? Choose between honouring a promise or making $28,000,000 extra. Any family or personal friend of Boozer would tell him to forget about the promise.

Anyway, promises are just promises. Empty. That's why we still need contracts.

 

People can blame Boozer or his agent all they want, but the fault is clearly on Cavs GM! What crack is he smoking? NBA is a business. Businesses are built on contracts, not promises! Did he honestly believed Utah is going to sit around with their $30 million cap space? Quality big man is as rare as black diamonds these days.

 

Who cares we couldnt afford him anyway!!!