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Boozer to Jazz! Can Rockets make TE deal with Cavs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DarkHorse, Jul 8, 2004.

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  1. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    AK47 is a good player but I think people believe he is better then he is because of his cool nickname. Jerry Sloan Jerry Sloan...

    Just some stats.

    Boozer: (34.6 min)

    PPG 15.5
    RPG 11.4
    BPG 0.7


    Howard (35.5 min)

    PPG 17.0
    RPG 7.0
    BPG 0.3
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    I think he is one of the top 15 players in the NBA.

    Check out his block and steal numbers. They are ridiculous.
     
  3. RocksMillenium

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    I wouldn't call that Jazz team the Detroit Pistons. But that's a good team. I'm looking at all of these teams improving and I'm a bit concerned, not with those teams improving, just with the Rockets themselves. If the Rockets get a PG and a back-up center then I'm ready to play anybody in the league. Get Barry and Battie in here and I'm ready for the Rocks to take on the league!
     
  4. New Jack

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    The Jazz are going to be tough next season. Add Boozer and Okur to a 42-win team and they could end up a 50 win team. They could be the Grizzlies of next season.
     
  5. Sean Reynolds

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    Ya'all need to remember Utah is still rebuilding their team. This only the base of what they're building. Their roster is so young it's sick.

    I myself would have rather had Martin than Boozer, but I don't think Martin is leaving NJ -- so this move is good for Utah. He was the second best PF on the market after Martin, IMO.

    I think Utah will compete for a solid playoff spot, not hang around the bottom like they did last year.

    Also remember, Utah will be getting Harp back too.
     
  6. Deuce Rings

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    Return of the Jazzholes. Damn. I thought Boozer was the best free agent available and Okur isn't too shabby either. Add that to Arroyo, Kirilenko, and Harping and Coach Sloan. Folks, the Midwest Division just got even tougher.
     
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    Have you forgotten something?
     
  8. Sean Reynolds

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    Midwest is no more.

    Utah and the Rox are in two different divisions now.
     
  9. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    WOW, I guess money talks! 6yr 68M is a lot better than the Cavs offer of 6yr 40M! No question.

    I guess gentlemen's agreement means crap in the NBA. Kinda sad really! Boozer did screw the Cavs! And Paxon should have seen this coming with all of those teams with all of those FA dollars available out there. The Cleveland Press is going to crucify Paxson!

    So the Utah front line is AK-47, Boozer and Okur. Not bad really. And EXACTLY the kind of players Sloan loves to have on his team. No nonsense workers. They will work VERY WELL in Utah's system.

    Utah, for a city where it probably is pretty tough to get good FAs, they did a nice job in resigning Arroyo and getting Okur and Boozer.
     
  10. lalala902102001

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    I think that there is still a very high chance that the Cavs will match the offer. They are now 4 mil. under the cap. For a 6 year/65 mil deal, the first year could start somewhere from 7 to 9 million dollars. This means that the Cavs only need to get rid of a contract that's worth 3-5 mil. to have enough cap space to match. There are still quite a few teams that have significant cap space or trade exception (ala the Rockets) and can take on contracts. Cleveland could find a way to dump some salary and match Boozer's offer if they really want to.
     
  11. sun12

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    I actually think with Jerry Sloan, Boozer, Okur and more, Jazz can win more games than the Rox does next season. They have a very balanced and young lineup. They don't have dead contracts.
    What a great move by their GM!

    Just hope Rox can clean two of its 3 PFs' contracts and use the money to sign some real players.
     
  12. ggore

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    he is, he isn't, he is . . . . .
    assuming he is restricted, and that the cavs will match . . .
    AND they need to clear at least 4 mil, maybe 8 mil to match the offer.

    TE for ?

    the most mentioned are:
    Wagner and Ollie are approx 2.6 and Battie is about 4.8

    Wagner could be stud
    Battie could be a good backup C
    Ollie is a poor backup pg

    TE for Battie would be a favor to the Cavs.
    We should get something else in addition, but what else can we get?
    Maybe they would also give us Wagner for Pike.
    That would up some of our logjam at SF while getting us a shooter off the bench.

    That woud be SWEEEET
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    New idea:

    Mo Taylor for Battie, McInnis

    Trade exception for Diop, Wagner

    :D

    Mo's contract is by far the worst we have...but he is still a decent player, who is at least not worse than any of the four we get...could back up the 4 and 5 for them in the east...
     
  14. Deuce

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    I agree. It makes sense for Cleveland to do that! It would be a killer if they lost out on Boozer. Like you said, there are a number of teams under the cap (or have a TE) that could help to absorb salary for the right sweetener.
     
  15. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    ahahahhahahah!!!

    Posters in this thread - Do not worry, the sky isn't falling, just think with a clear head.

    The Rockets are better then the Jazz.

    Okur might have been the worst contract ever given out if it wasn't for this offseaon of GM blunders

    9.6 points, 5.9 rebounds from the center position if the get Boozer) 0.9 Blocks..... scary

    Boozer is a solid player indeed. Not a superstar, but also
    not just a role player. In the east he averaged 15 and 11. In the west he might have a little more trouble. Even though everyone isn't to pleased with Howard at the 4 he gets you more points atleast. ( I would love Boozer on the Rockets.)

    Arroyo? nice little point guard. there is a reason he got only 16 million in the offseason of spending madness.

    AK47 Cool nickname. Great numbers - hustles. The Jazz's best player. Lets compare the stats of the Rockets best player (Mcgrady) and the Jazz's best player AK47...

    16.5 pts 3.1 ast 2.8 to 8.1 reb 2.8 blk 1.92 stl

    28.0 pts 5.5 ast 2.7 to 6.0 reb 0.6 blk 1.39 stl

    Hapring is a good player when not hurt. Averages 16.2 a game...nothing spectacular - a little better (and younger) then Jim Jackson.

    I'm not to worried about the Jazz even with there signings. Yao and T-Mac people...... it's going to be fun next season.
     
  16. sabirk

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    Am I missing something here? If the Cav's would have picked up the option this year wouldn't they have been in the same situation next year? Boozer's contract would have expired next year and Clevland still wouldn't have been able to match an offer like this. Isn't this what almost happened to Mobley when we almost lost him to Toronto?

    Also, I don't blame Boozer one bit. Twenty to Thirty million is just too much to pass up. It's funny how the NBA is a business when it benefits Rockets fans (Steve Francis), yet it's one big family in other situations.

    EDIT:Okay, I did have something wrong. If they would taken his option he would have been an unrestricted free agent next year. They could have went over the cap to resign him. Plus Z's contract is finishing and they would have had a ton of cap space. I still don't blame him for taking the money.
     
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    I am not convinced Wagner would fit here. He looks like Steve Francis Junior to me. I'd take McGinnis and Batie though. They would fit nice.
     
  18. micah1j

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    I seriously doubt they would give up McInnis and Battie.
     
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    it depends on how bad they want to match Boozers offer. I'm sure they'd be willing to do just about anything
     
  20. Deuce

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    Wagner might not fit here, but if not he would be a nice tradable asset to have. I think ultimately Wagner's best role would be a Bobby Jackson type scorer PG off the bench. Could be a very good 6th man.
     

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