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Boozer dominated Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ekim, Apr 30, 2007.

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  1. HI Mana

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    Player A
    37.0 ppg
    55.0 FG%
    84.3 FT%
    9.8 rpg
    1.6 bpg

    vs.

    Player B
    27.4 ppg
    52.7 FG%
    75.0 FT%
    13.8 rpg
    1.8 bpg

    Player A killed Player B in the series, as was plainly obvious from the stats, and also anyone who watched. Player B, despite being a defender of good reputation, particularly in the low block, repeatedly got faced up and taken 1 on 1 by Player A, and was also posterized a fair number of times. It was true that Player A was the beneficiary of some outstanding passes off the pick and roll from his outstanding point guard, and at times looked so absolutely unstoppable that one had to wonder what Player B's coach, who also had a fair reputation as knowing a thing or two about defense, was doing to allow it to happen. Why didn't Player B get switched off onto Player A's all-star teammate who was a complete non-factor the entire series? Why didn't they send double help? When would this multiple-All-Star starter finally stop letting Player A dominate him?

    All in all, it didn't matter. Somehow Player B was able to shake off the embarassment, help his team win the series, and win the Championship that year. Critics realized that if the team hadn't let Player B get torched by Player A, and started doubling, or defending the pick and roll better, Player A's point guard might have gone absolutely nuts, or Player A's team, which thrived on the jumpshot, might have gotten far too many looks. Yet fan forums across the land still remember the series when American born Player A dominated foreign born Player B. Remember, in the game of basketball, only how good you look on the court matters, not the final score...
     
  2. rockmanslim

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    Amare vs. Duncan? Did I win?
     
  3. TheGM

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    He said foreign born, you lose. Duncan was born a US citizen, because he is part of the US Virgin Islands. So you lose, I win!
    :)
     
  4. JEREMYMEEGAN

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    Give Yao some credit

    hes getting better but...Boozer is quicker and tougher than Yao
     
  5. daoshi

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    Given the poor outside shooting by the Jazz, I couldn't figure out why the Rockets haven't zoned the Jazz up. I mean there is no one, outside of Fisher, can shoot 3pt consistently for the Jazz, why do you not just packed the zone, so Yao won't get exposed on defense? It's just plain stupid coaching.
     
  6. montevideo

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    Yao took 18 shots to make 21 points. Boozer took 23 shots to score 26 points. Boozer did well - but also consumed nearly 25% of his teams shots.

    Yao pulled down 15 rebounds (four offensive) to Boozers 8.

    Yoa guards Boozer - and blocks him out - Boozer got zero offensive rebounds. Boozer guards Hayes - who get's few if any plays called - so Boozer's effort and contribution level on defense not nearly equal to Yao's.

    Boozer did make about 6-8 of his 12 shots against Yao - he was not however able to get Yao in foul trouble or to frustrate Yao. It seems like Yao is choosing not to leave his feet or lean into his opponent to challenge shots - to avoid risking fouls.

    Yao caused Okur to foul out and fouls against him contributed to putting the Jazz in the penalty which resulted in a couple of extra free throws.

    I would say that both Boozer and Yao had good games - and that overall - even though Boozer had more points - Yao's impact on the outcome was arguably greater because of his higher offensive efficiency, his defense, his rebounding and the fouls he absorbed.

    /m
     
  7. zong

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    JVG almost never uses the zone as far as I can recall, but if the Rox wins the series, anything is not a big deal.

     
  8. Lemarc

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    Boozer makes it look so easy!
     
  9. RocksMillenium

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    What a stupid post.
     
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    And how good is your mandarin? Yeah, I thought so. Real good of you to take cheap shots at people who at least make an attempt to communicate in a language that might be other than the primary one used in their country.

    Wow, does that make you feel better?

    BTW, you are quite proficient in whinning, stupidity, and bigotry. Let me guess -- you live in a double wide in Mississippi?
     
  11. RocksMillenium

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    lol! It's amazing, the Rockets pull out a HUGE win and move within one win of the 2nd round and there are people ripping a guy who put up 21 and 15. Crazy.
     
  12. jordan_123

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    first of all yao is forced to guard a power forward not a center.boozer is quicker and shoot a really high arching shot.and people should remember that it is okur who is guarding yao so boozer can have more energy and focus on offence while yao is getting tired on both ends of the floor.if boozer wasguarding yao he would be less effective with his own offence as he would have to spend more energy on defence like okur for example who is not putting many points on the scoreboard.well i don't think boozer is dominating yao just that he is a mismatch for yao and yao is spending more energy,that's why he is less effective
     
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    RocksMillenium pwned TheHangover on 4-30-2007.
     
  14. JayZ750

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    I haven't read this whole thread, but I can't see why anything more than the above needs to be said.

    Yao is averaging more points, rebounds, blocks and a higher FT% than Boozer. They are playing equal number of minutes. Yao has fewer assists and is shooting worse, but suprisingly, not that much worse. How Boozer isn't shooting 65% this series is beyond me...it certainly seems like everything he is throwing up is going in.

    Fact is. Yao is guarding Boozer. Boozer is not guarding Yao. Yao is a center. Boozer is a PF. It hardly seems a fair comparison to guard the two. Yao has had no chance to dominate Boozer, since Boozer doesn't guard him.
     
  15. pryuen

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    The MORE I think about this, the MORE I'm p@$$ed about this whole SHIIIIT of saying Boozer dominated Big Yao.

    Carlos Boozer is a PF, and one of the more sharp-shooting PFs in the league, enjoying 20.9 ppg (56% FG%) in regular season. He also is a great rebounder 11.7 rpg (with 3.2 offensive rpg). One of those 20/10 elites in the league.

    It is a mis-match by assigning Big Yao to guard the shorter, quicker and agile Boozer.

    But you know what? Despite Boozer increased his ppg to 23 ppg in the playoff series, his FG% dropped to 48%, and his rebounds, in particularly the offensive rebounds dropped to 10.8 rpg (2.6 offensive rebounds).

    And Carlos Boozer did not have to take alot of defensive assignment, but just be the go-to-guy in offense for Utah Jazz.

    And having to play both side of the court in O&D, Big Yao still contributed 24.4/12 in this playoff series (despite a big drop in FG%), a slight drop in ppg, but a significant increase in rpg, comparing to his regular season average (25/9.4).

    Is 24.4/12 >>>> 23/10.8 ??? How is that Boozer completely owned/dominated Big Yao ?? RIDICULOUS !!! :rolleyes:
     
  16. ToothYanker

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    So? Big Yao is only shooting at .416 a clip, which is an even bigger decrease in FG% than Boozer. Yao needs to step it up. Constructive criticism of flaws in his game are a good thing. If Yao were as touchy as you, he'd still be averaging 13 points a game. You need to ease up on your unhealthy obsession with Yao and return his underwear to his house before he finds out you took it. :rolleyes:
     
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    You guys can't read. The 7'6" poster of Yao I have in my dorm room suggests I'm not a YOH. I personally don't think Yao is a role player. But the fact that he can play bad and not get criticized by any of you tells me that he must not be a superstar, not even an all-star. How else can you explain this? That must mean that everyone here thinks he's a role player. I think he's a super star, and that's why I hold him to a higher standard. His defense was bad. He shot the ball poorly for a guy who's supposed to be so efficient. He is a superstar, and that's why he should be called out for playing bad.

    The fact that people do call out T-Mac here even though he's our only play maker just illustrates how much of a superstar T-Mac is. He'll take all the blame. By saying "It's on me", he attracts all the blame to himself. Yao and the role players are now blameless. There is less pressure on them. They can now relax. That's what you call leadership.

    pryuen, you've NEVER had any credibility, so I don't know what you're talking about. You're the biggest YOF on the forum. You've said so many ridiculous anti-T-Mac posts that were unwarranted, it's not even funny.

    I think you're lost. Let me help you find your way back to your home.

    www.yao.mingmania.com/forum
     
  18. fredthered

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    You just said "if you shoot enough you get points", then your stats show that Boozer took 5 more shots then Yao...guess what, he scored 5 more points. Im not saying that Yao played well, but he did not get dominated AND we won.
     
  19. ooliverb1

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    Man you need to cool down a bit. If you are pissed at people threw at Yao, just look at the mud people threw at TMac (BTW, did you throw some at TMac yourself too? ;) )

    On the other hand, I agree with your comments about Boozer. Having to play at both ends defintely impact Yao's ability to guard Boozer, especially at the end of the game.
     
  20. lastopsuburb

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    First of all, i love Yao and im a fan...

    That said... I think you are ridiculous just looking at the stats and ignoring the facts that Boozer has been outplaying Yao for about 4 straight games now. I know the mobility/size mismatches, but there is no reason why Yao can't make any adjustments or do better in the offensive end against Okur. Okur even said he knows the whole arsenal of Yao's game already... So personally i think with Yao's skills, he can totally school okur if he can adjust and kick Okur's ass.

    On the Defensive end i just don't see how we can stop boozer but to crowd his ass when he puts it on the floor against Yao and make him shoot jump shots even if he makes them...
     

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