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[Boom!] Mavs Beat Writer Detonates Analytics Nerd Boys; Morey, Hinkie Crying over Nachos

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SamFisher, Feb 25, 2016.

  1. rocketman12

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    If you read the deadspin article, they make fun of that dude for his incoherent tweets. They are not praising or agreeing with him at all.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    With one stroke he has basically made the entire playoffs a pointless exercise that could just as easily be settle with a coin flip. Guy is a visionary.
     
  3. Roxfreak724

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    Well, his logic IS undebatable......smh
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Well, I am agreeing with him - can't wait to see the statboys try to spin the logic of TRUTH in their faces even if it makes me unpopular.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I heard <a href="https://twitter.com/Deadspin">@Deadspin</a> got off the couch, did some trolling and re-tweeted my tweets. Must have been a very busy day.Thanks dude. Keep trolling.</p>&mdash; Dwain Price (@DwainPrice) <a href="https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/status/702719012979888128">February 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    Unrelated list of things Dwain fully understands the meaning of:
    1. re-tweeting
    2. trolling
    3. analytics
     
  6. moestavern19

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    Sample size inconclusive. Need to run at least 10,000 simulated tweets to see how idiotic he truly is.
     
  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    With that kind of insight and investigative instincts, he will be picked up by American political reporting groups in no time. We will miss him in sports. :-(
     
  8. marky :)

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    Forgot to include to the list

    4. basketball
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    You didn't prove anything , other than this dude is a dumbass. Nobody is hating on analytics, just its use to skew our perception on what really happens so some fanboi can get his nutter up.
     
  10. valorita

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    Mavs has one of the largest analystics depts lol
     
  11. RocketsJumer

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    Remember Price's rant when DJ left the Mavericks?

    It was like, "When I gave my wife a ring 25 years ago, she didn't back out of her yes to marry me."

    So funny! This guy is such a cry baby and so emotionally invested. Dude, take a step back.
     
  12. RedRedemption

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    I don't understand why people think teams implementing analytics are sitting in a room crunching numbers on a calculator and using excel values on a spreadsheet to build the team.

    That's not how it works.
     
  13. tycoonchip

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    So analytics is helping us this season how?
     
  14. ipaman

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    stats to disprove stats. need moar stats.
     
  15. larsv8

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    When people don't understand something, their natural reaction is to attack it.

    That is the idiot's playbook.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    What's a matter Polly - U can't handle when DwainPrice puts a TRUTH STICK in yo face?

    I'd like to here him TWEET about midrange game. JORDAN used a midrange game.
     
  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    I don't understand how you have gone back and forth with me about this so many times and still misunderstand my stance. Do you actually read the posts you quote?

    Good 3 > Most 2s outside the key, for most of the players

    Bad 3 < Good open 2s with proper spacing and plays (all common sense really)



    The ones with more comprehension usually come down to this point ":( well we can't get open midrange shots to incorporate into our offense and don't have good shooters to shoot from around 10ft out, they're only good at chucking from 30ft :(."

    You however seem to be stuck much further up on the argument. For the sake of your clients, I pray you dumb it down on purpose.

    The whole point is that you diversify your offense and make it versatile so you get good looks on your 3s, direct ball movement in a seemingly sporadic manner to keep the defense guessing and prevent stagnation, so even when you run shooters off the 3pt line you can swing it around to a guy to pop a stand still shot from 10'.

    This is where you get the pretenders who have played little if any basketball and spent most of their time on the sidelines. "They can't hit from 10' they is only gud at making shot from layup or 3pt line." If you can make a ****ing free throw, a distant 3, you know how to shoot the damn ball as I imagine NBA players are pretty adept at, and you can hit a shot from 10ft out if given 1-2 seconds before the defender creeps up. The further out you are, the more motor units you recruit and the more your accuracy drops. You sacrifice accuracy for strength, its a basic physiological principle. Take a 10 shots and move a foot behind the line till you get to half court and you will see that its not mystery that your % drops off the further you go. That doesn't mean you take the closer shot everytime though, as you obviously understand, the added benefit of hitting the 3 offsets the drop in %. Where this really hits the fan though, is when you have a pickup ball level offense with bad looks and you're rolling the dice on the 3 ball everytime.

    Then again, when your whole game plan is to iso every possession and either chuck from 3 or flail your arms trying to draw a foul, you're not going to have very much movement are you? It's a piss poor excuse that stems from not having a system, some rocket fans, yourself included, have become too stupid or ignorant to realize that...how basketball is played at the fundamental level. It also doesn't help when the mentality of your organization isn't predicated on any sort of game plan, but a chase for (ironically) inefficient stars like Melo hoping that alone will put them over the top. Its a lazy ideology that is doomed to fail.

    So not only are you wrong with the midrange post once again, but you have demonstrated time and time again the inability to reason through what the other person is trying to say. If you want to make it easier on yourself by saying the other person discounts statistics (especially when they use scientific studies on a day to day basis), or thinks that the rockets should shoot midrange jumpers all day, you are either stupid or deliberately spreading falsehood.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    I like analytics as a tool, I don't like it other than informational that is less important than the seasoned eye.

    DD
     
  19. SamFisher

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    Agree it's like what Denny Crum once said.

    In my eyes I trust, let God worry about the data.

    DD
     
  20. J.R.

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