BONZI WELLS: "i didn't come to run a marathon, i came to play basketball"

he knew how the coach was? , wtf ?? .. did he sign himself?? NO
who signed him?? the coach: JVG
does it matter what he expected from the coach? no, JVG signed him, everybody knew he was a knucklehead..dont defend JVG, he brought him here, and now he is not letting him play.. it's like u stayed up the whole night in line waiting to get your PS3, and u were lucky and got the last PS3 for like 400 hundred dollars, and then u just went home and decided "oh, PS3 is boring" and u just never used it..

again, you are just looking at what the media shows u..
plus, when u signed him, u should've read in the scouting report that he parties every day..
once more, the guy is a natural Knucklehead, JVG shouldn't have signed him if he was planning to "discipline" him because nobody has been successful in doing that and I am pretty sure Van r****d wont be able to especially with his great friendly attitude with his players..

oh, my bad, I guess I am r****ded and I dont know anything about what u called "NBA economics".. wtf ?? did u just make that up?? what, are u trying to confuse me or something??

Bonzi is a great player, he doesn't need to play well this year to prove himself, playing well might have an effect on HOW much money he will get paid, but as far as I am concerned, he will be signed by SOMEBODY, I am pretty sure about that...

and btw, here's a cool quote I found:

no comment.. this was pretty funny though..

man, you are right.. I should start watching more games... can u invent some more games for me to watch because I cant find more games.. I watch every single game on FSN, KNWS, and the ones on nat'l TV.. I live in H-town, so it's pretty easy to watch all the games..

so Battier cant play the 4 ... right... well I am assuming then that Juwan can.. omg, JHO is one hell of a player.. he is the best PF on the team.. did u see his aggressive moves to the basket, damn, he owned the pistons yesterday.. that's not mentioning his great D, he locked down Rasheed didn't he?...

Chuck is injured, ok, what do u suggest we do? start Howard like we are doing right now?? hell no, we should TEMPORARILY slide Shane to the 4 (which he CAN play, by the way, 10 times better than JHO) and insert Bonzi or Snyder to the starting lineup...

it's pretty simple, just focus, and THINK..

Link? lmao..
u must be one funny guy.. Link? are u kidding me?? do u even know anything about the NBA ??

just tell me, who signed him then ?? I know what your answer is: the general Manager... you are right, but the General Manager doesn't do stuff like "oh, I feel like signing Sam CAssell, he is a hell of a player, I am gonna do it" while his team has Steve Nash and Eddy House running the point.. it doesn't go like that.. the coach has the final decision in signing a player.. u know, after all, he is the coach, he's knows what the team needs and what they dont need... if the coach says no to a trade, the outcome will be one of two: they forget about the move (trade, FA signing..), OR: they go ahead and do it, and fire the coach's a$$..
and Link?? no.. I dont have time to go to google.com, type in: NBA information, and lookup stuff about how they do it..

I suggest u do that though..

are u kidding me?? under the impression that bonzi would stay fat?? lol
last time I checked they had this thing called "scouting report" for each player before they do any move... it probably didn't state that "Bonzi will stay fat, dont sign him", but it's the coach's job to determine if he will be productive or not.. if he is a r****d or not, if he's gonna act a fool or not.. and there were no surprises.. that's what everybody expected from Bonzi... except for JVG of course.. he's too smart to predict that..

btw, thanks, u really did a great job supporting my argument in the last part of your post.. u basically said "JVG is stupid, he didn't do his job right" by saying "Even if it was jvg that wanted to pick him up first, do you think he did so under the impression that bonzi would stay fat?"

 

Seriously, I think everyone needs to question JVG's committment to winning by refusing to play Bonzi over some personal thing to prove that he's right.

 

it's really funny, I dont get the simple idea of management..
help me out rook... please.. what is the simple idea of management??

next time, try to contribute to a thread instead of posting bullsh!t like that.. ok.. I know that if u contribute effectively it will cause more of your brain cells to burn and you will have to write more stuff than u did in this post, but it's better for u because when they update your status, they dont look only at your postcount, they look at the quality of your post, which, imho, is **** to the power 10..

great post rookie.. it's a very good idea to request the lock of a thread especially when u contributed majorly to it..

btw, it's very smart to post stuff like that to improve your Postcount.. keep up the good work..

 

I think that you guys need to consider the unintended consequences of letting a defiant loser like Bonzi play in a situation like this. For Van Gundy and management to cave in it sets the precedent that players can do whatever they want. Today its "running a marathon," tomorrow its following the plays on the court, the next day its wearing a uniform, the day after that it is whatever else might ensue... Van Gundy is right on for not playing that pathetic loser. It was questionable before, but now it is for certain that he's not ever going to get the money he wants now because he's behaving the a spoiled female dog (for lack of a better word). Not only is what JVG doing right for the team, but it is right for the entire NBA. In fact, I would go a step further and fire Wells now. Someone else MIGHT pick up his contract and the Rockets wouldn't have to waste anymore money on him.

 

Whatever dude^^^

JVG is the stubborn female dog in this equation. He needs to learn how to manage different personalities and extract their best performance. It does not look like jvg can do this. Give wells some playing minutes and allow him to get in shape.

Wells is not a pathetic loser and you need to calm your azz their rookie.

Did you not see wells destroy the spurs last season in playoffs.

 

Which team won that playoff series that Bonzi dominated?



DD

 

Yeah, the Spurs got the last laugh b/c they defeated the Mavs and went to the Finals and won a championship....oh wait....that was the Heat.


so past team playoff-performance always dictates future performance? Someone call Les Alexander, call off the season.

I can tell you that the kings did not lose b/c of anything that wells did or did not do.

So your point is

 

Nothing really, thus the winky guy....

I think Bonzi should be playing too, but I also think V-Span and possibly Novak should be playing....

JVG - well, I have never been all that impressed with him, I think he is well prepared, but too dominating a personality to win it all.

Good coaches let the players play, and know there are going to be mistakes.....and let them learn from that.

I think JVG is too overbearing...and could use a good dose of chill pills.

DD

 

My bad, I agree with you 100%. I just wish JVG would be a bit more flexible....give novak, vspan some minutes...even if its just a few key games here or there. I mean, had it not been for the injuries last yr we would not be reaping the benefits of chuck wagon and luther heads 2 guard 3 pt shots.

 

I think you guys have some things backwards. Players don't PLAY to get in shape, they GET IN SHAPE to PLAY. That's the way it has always been and should always be... there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that Van Gundy should let this guy play in order to get him in shape. If CD felt otherwise he would fire Van Gundy and hire you, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

... and what does it matter when I was first exposed to this site? When the first time that I became a "member" and thus, was able to post resonses. Is that suggestive of my knowledge on basketball or anything else, for that matter? [inset witty comeback here]

Bonzi Wells is a big FAT waste of Rockets' payroll money and roster space and needs to be discarded as such.

 

If you bothered to read through some of the earlier arguments I posted, you'll clearly see that I have already explained myself, and the situation and consequences.

As for your other personal attacks, there is no need to be snide here. This is a message board, and if you can't accept the fact that your arguments are being debunked by a "rook", then you seriously need to evaluate yourself.

You can insult me all you want, but it seriously doesn't affect me whatsoever. Because quite frankly, I can't make everyone see the objective point of view here, but I certainly tried, and I'm sure many see where I, and so many more of the other sensible posters, are coming from when we say JVG did the right thing by not giving Bonzi preferential treatment just to win games, and just because he took a major paycut to join this team.

If you insist on your belief that Bonzi should play, then fine. Go on. But clearly, you seem to be in the majority here. But whatever, you are entitled to your own opinion, I am entitled to mine. But I sure would wish that you take a step back and look at things from beyond a diehard Rockets fan's point of view, and you'll find that you're really going against objectivity here.

Oh and for the record, I can safely say that the quality of most of my posts aren't really lacking at all.

Have a good day friend.

 

Wow, you seem to know more about Bonzi's potential than CD. Its amazing that you will not replace CD when he retires after this season . No matter how much you exercise on cardio machines and practice games....you will NEVER full condition yourself without playing the freaking game. Should Bonzi get his act together and get in shape and contribute to this team in reg. season and post, I will bump this thread and call you the fok out. Since win are you the judge of the Rocks salary expenditures anyway.

 

Man DD, I agree so often I feel like we are using the same brain not quite enough for both of to have one of our own

I really think JVG's dedication to win has to be questioned if he doesnt start playing his

1. dark horse (V-span)
2. His hired gun slinger (novak)
3. and his Ace in the hole (bonzi)

 

Only JVG would keep the "Best shooter in the NBA" (according to TMac) on the bench when his team is struggling to score.

So many other coaches would at least take a peak.

DD

 

But what's the use of scoring when you are getting score on on the other end? Basketball is a two-way game, and unless your offense is as high-powered as the Suns, you're not gonna get away with trying to outscore the other team.

 

someone with common sense and basketball knowledge!!

 

So if Novak comes in, you are saying roxs defense is going to collapse. Sorry, but our D is not that great right now anyway. Can't hurt to bring in some instant bench shooting....Did you not see how popovich helped erase a 19 pt deficit? a combo of great offense and defense......ewww, what a concept.

 

^^utilizing the bench and 3s went flying from the bench...the bench....see a theme here....the bench be-atch.

 

If we have say Big Ben at 4 on our team now, I can see your point, i.e. not wanting to sacrifice defense for offense. But right now we're playing JHo and Padgett, who don't have defense to begin with anyway. What's worse is they don't have offense either.

So to me, I know we can get at least offense from Novak. That's already more than we can get from JHo and Padgett.

 

uh ok all you guys who defend the statement "im not here for money, im here for a championship"

you all know that that statement was nothing but another ploy for getting money...and once he gets the championship, he gets more money, and with that statement, his stock goes up so he can get, yes, more money.

So anyone, ANYONE, who makes a statement saying, " Im not here for money" is just putting up a noble and selfless front