BONZI WELLS: "i didn't come to run a marathon, i came to play basketball"

Somewhat true, but we will need such a playoff stretch from him this year.

The difference is Clydes talent and firepower > Maxwell. Maxwell was expendable with Clyde, Mario, Cassell, etc.

But Bonzi talent and firepower > Snyder and Bonzi > Head. Outside of Yao and Tmac, Bonzi is really the only other match-up problem causing guy on the whole roster.

Hopefully this is much to do about nothing. We need Bonzi to peak for the playoffs. If him having a more marginal role for a half season or more (keep him healthy) helps this so be it.

I guess we should all be more patient for Bonzi and JVG. It will be after the NBA year is done where it all will be judged. But I do stand that JVG and the Rockets need Bonzi to play like he did for Sac's playoff games for us to be title contenders, and I care more about that than sending messages to newby players that they need to tow the line.

 

It was never my understand that he came to Memphis to be their first option.

It was probably the third maybe even fourth option in that offense.

I also think many of you are misunderstanding me. I am not claiming him to be an "all-star", our "first option" or even our great saviour.

I just want to see him earn his money. I think he can do well given some playing time.

How much do you weigh DreamMVP? I bet you arent in shape either. Why dont you go get in shape and leave Barkely and Bonzi and Shaq alone huh?>

 

Wells is a friggin' loser. The Rockets should trade him outright for C-Webb, or or Luol Deng or anyone.

 

You know nothing

 

I really don't get posts like this. Bonzi comes in in horrible shape. He isn't willing to work on it or do what it takes to get into good shape, and makes public comments that indicates he doesn't care about it, displays a crappy attitude...

And somehow it is JVG fault!!!?

What are people talking about? I don't care if people don't like JVG there are some reasons why they might not. Bonzi's bad attitude, laziness and unwillingness to contribute to the team certainly isn't the fault of JVG.

 

I think it could be done, yet it doesn't have to be done. Bonzi just needs to be in shape enough to play the game. He looks too much like Sweetney out there for my tastes.

We tried this remember? some preseason and the first game of the regular. In the regular season the competition is down a notch, but in the season opener, we lost. Putting bonzi in there would contribute more to the collapse than having him out. Look at chicago in the second quarter, where they played all their new guys together, along with a struggling gordan.

Agreed, but i don't think any of those characters were anywhere near as overweight as Bonzi. True Drexler was not in shape, but not because of his weight.

If this doesn't work out the biggest loser would in fact be Bonzi. Remember how he wants that big contract? Well being too overweight to play surely wouldn't help his situation. And as I have said earlier he isn't gonna help us on the court. Now I hate defending Jeff on this matter, because he does have faults in his rotation and Snyder is really bugging me, but come on....Bonzi weighs almost as much as Dike.

 

CD did great jobs to get good role players, then JVG refuses to use them, forget about Wells, how about Novak, Vspain? any minutes on the floor. If Wells is a player without any problems, Rox has no chance to get him with 2.5 m a year, get the thing right.

 

Oh yeah this almost.

 

I agree with this. Novak and Vspan deserves a chance, because we all know how much juwon and snyder are helping.

 

you are asking how is it JVG's fault.. well, it is.. u know why? because if he developed some kind of "friendly" relationship with Bonzi and got him on his side, Bonzi wouldn't go out and talk crap .. if JVG talked with Bonzi, discussed the problem and tried to work it out, everything would be OK.. but I am pretty sure Bonzi will not just go out for no reason and say "I didn't come to run a marathon"...

you are looking at the issue from one aspect, try to put yourself in place of Bonzi..what would u do? what would cause u to say stuff like that?
well, all the things he said only reflect one thing: he loves basketball and he wants to play... if he was a lazy fat a$$, he wouldn't ask to play.. he would probably just say "ok, I need to get in shape, I am working on it" and just go out partying every night... his comments suggest otherwise.. it suggest that he wants to play, he wants to help the team, he is probably working on getting back in shape, he just needs some time on the floor.. after all, this is how u get back in shape, u play NBA basketball games...

if I were Bonzi, I would be pissed right now because JHO is starting and I am not even on the active list..

it's Bonzi, not any scrub.. u got him for a freakin bargain.. why would u try to discipline him and treat him like a high school player?? .. now I am not saying that Bonzi is an Angel, I know he's not, I know he has a bad attitude.. but u gotta live with it and try not to piss him off so u wont see that bad attitude.. OR, you are gonna end up with another DA or Swift (just one difference, DA and Swift were originally scrubs, Bonzi is a star)

 

uh yeah that's why jvg told the media that bonzi had "personal problems" early in the season. he really screwed bonzi with that one.

wow nice way to spin it. He IS a lazy fat ass, that's why he needs to get into shape. If he wasnt a lazy fat ass, he'd stfu and slim down so that jvg will play him...."and just go out partying every night"....rofl how ironic. obviously you didn't see the thunderthighs thread. he comments do not suggest otherwise. he comments suggests he wants playing time so that he can show whoever is going to sign him in the offseason what he can do.l

Yes jho sucks balls but he didn't cry over being relegated to 10th man. It was only when hayes got injured that jvg had no choice but to put him in. Can bonzi wells play the 4 for us? No. That's what I thought.

 

Yeah if only JVG was nice to him and won his friendship....he wouldn't act like an *******. It's definitely JVG's fault...

 

If I didn't know better I'd read this post and think that Bonzi had never been a malcontent in his career until he came to Houston. "u gotta live with it and not try to piss him off" ... right, because keeping Bonzi happy is more important than winning games.

The irrational JVG hatred on this board is really perplexing sometimes.

 

I think Bonzi is in the doghouse. We have a coach that doesn't know how to motivate players, a coach that is so egoistic and a distrustful coach. Bonzi will never play unless he comes in terms with JVG. JVG got this "I am god attitude, so don't mess with me or you don't play". "your way or the highway". It is sad that CD got all this talented players and yet you don't see them play. Can we trade coaches and get Phil Jackson? JVG is an average coach that have a lot of deficiences that he is trying to hide.

 

JVG has not publically criticized Bonzi. The shape Bonzi is in is not somebody else's fault. If I go out and put on an extra 70 pounds it isn't my wife's fault, my boss's fault, or anybody's fault by mine. I am the one who put the weight on, and it is up to me to take it off.

It doesn't matter what kind of excuses you make for Bonzi, he is ultimately responsible for himself. It is his own fault that he is an attitude of not wanting to get into shape to do his best for the team. At any point he could decide to work hard. That decision is up to Bonzi.

Bonzi is showing that he doesn't care. If someone doesn't care, then please keep them away from ball players who do and are working hard to fill a role for the team.

 

Did JVG make Bonzi Wells get fat? Is JVG keeping Bonzi Wellls from working out and getting into shape?

Is Bonzi trying super hard to get in shape, and be a contributor to the Houston Rockets, but somehow JVG prevents him from doing this at every step?

 

Well, you probably have never managed a team before (just guessing, of course, correct me if I am wrong). When you have a team, you have to be consistent on how you treat everyone in the team. Otherwise, you will have chaos. Have you been in a situation when someone in a team complains that so and so gets special treatment? Why did he/she complain? Would consistency help in that case? Most importantly, once team members start complaining about inconsistency or discrimination, what does it do to the team and the teamwork?

 

I think u dont quite understand what I meant.. I was saying that u shouldn't look at what's mentioned in the media, u should look deeper for the "behind th scenes" stuff.. JVG is not that stupid to go out and bash Bonzi publicly.. but I am pretty sure he didn't treat him nicely.. one instance is that phone call thing where he said "well, how about u take a time off permenantly for the rest of the season?" what kinda answer is this ? that's BS... u dont treat your players like that.. u have to develop a good relationship with them especially if it's a good player, not a scrub.. I know Bonzi has a bad attitude, but u signed him, u have to deal with his crap...man, I miss Rudy-T...

I did see what u called the "thunderthighs" thread... u guys are making a big thing out of it..

whatever his intention is, he wants to play.. he doesn't want to stay at home.. whoever is going to sign him don't need to see him , they saw enough in the playoffs last year... he's gonna be signed next year for big $ wether he plays or not.. he already proved himself last year.. he just needs a freakin good coach to put him on the court... but no, JVG is a great coach.!! he knows what he's doing... just keep defending him, lets see where he's gonna take us.. My prediction: DRAFT LOTTERY..

omg!! u are one smart guy..
you are right, Bonzi cant play 4 for us, but Battier can.. Battier slides to the 4, Bonzi 3, Tmac 2.. u know.. just try to focus a little more and you will figure it out..

 

what u said is right.. I agree with u.. Bonzi is a knuckle head.. but u said it, it's not new!! he's been known for being a knucklehead.. but guess what, I didn't sign him, and u didn't sign him, JVG did.. when u sign a player, u should be responsible for the outcome..

y'all are acting like Bonzi just signed himself with the rockets... he didn't , JVG did... and if I were Les Alexander, I would be pissed because my money is spent for nothing...

 

I absolutely agree with u..

I just have one question:

who is responsible for signing Bonzi "FAt A$$" Wells in the first place?

A) RocketsMac
B) FranchiseBlade
C) darkwarrior
D) clutchfans as a whole
E) Jeff Van Gundy, head coach of the Houston Rockets

if you answered E, you are right...!!!