BONZI WELLS: "i didn't come to run a marathon, i came to play basketball"

we saw Wells play already this season... remember the "barely dunking"?

Is that guy honestly gonna help the team more than Snyder or Head now? Every minute is critical so far this year... very few garbage minutes for the purpose of "working himself in shape"...

Hell, how is 10-15 minutes a game supposed to get a guy in shape without his own work anyway.

Wells needs to earn his minutes.

We are not talking Jordan, Shaq, or even McGrady here. They can be a step slow and still effective.

Bonzi Wells can't. If he's not in good enough shape, he sucks. Ask Memphis.

 

I think it is the hypocrictial approach that I have a problem with at this time.

I dont think he can choose the players that you coach well.

It is easy to win an argument if you constantly change the principal.

We are not talking about playing players. We care talking about flexability(maybe now you can understand) in a coach. Knowing your players and adminsitering the proper adjustments not just saying "well this worked for Cato so it must work for Steve."

That is an idiotic prideful approach.

PS, if you dont think Shaq and Jordan had foulmouths youa re crazy.

 

I think Bonzi's fat ass can use the same way to bump defenders for advantage. Hey, Bonzi only played 2 games, how could u know Bonzi's fat ass wont get better after 2 games.

And all your talk is about Shaq's fat ass on offense. Please tell me a little bit more about Shaq's fat ass on defense. Probably, Shaq's fat ass can take away more space in the paint, so even Shaq's fat ass moves slower, Shaq's fat ass is still a better defender. That's what I think following your logic.

 

so you are saying that you are happy with what we're doing ??? if we got lucky the last 3 games and only lost 1, that doesn't mean it will always happen!

and talking about Vspan, Novak, and Bonzi's flaws, it's not like we have Steve Nash playin the point, Larry Bird lighting it up, and Charles Barkley posting up.. I understand that Vspan, NOvak, and Bonzi might mess up, actually, I know for a fact that they WILL mess up a little bit, but Rafer, Padgett, and Juwan are not doing much better !

try watching Rafer "skip to my lou" Alston... he is perfect.. he doesn't dribble the ball off his foot.. never..

take a look at Luther Head, supposedly our "back up 1", he doesn't turn it over at all!! his passes are perfect and NOT sloppy at all... plus he owns everybody on Defense, he owned Gordon last time..remember?

oh, Scotty the body does a great job on Defense! did u see him own Khryapa yesterday?? damn, he held him to only 2 offensive rebounds in 8 minutes!! considering Khryapa's superior athletic ability, that's one hell of a job..

you are absolutely right on this one.. Juwan Howard is doing his Defensive Assignment perfectly !! he is killing the other team with his rebounding skills, that's not mentioning his great pass-faking ability...

 

Let's see. You have a 7'1" fat player guarding the low post (doesn't even come out to defend, btw) where the ball handler is about 5-10 ft from the basket. Compared to a player with 8 directions to go to besides in front of you at 23 feet out where if they get around you, they have plenty of space to do damage.

Based on my logic, which you misinterpreted, is how Shaq commands a double team time after time because of his size. When he gets the ball down low, it's over because one bump and you're out of position. People don't go and double-team Bonzi Wells for that situation. Now, add the fact that his finishing moves doesn't work because he's nowhere near the basket on his jump doesn't make it very difficult to guard.

Add that to bad offense and this is where you are.

Anyone saw how badly Shaq was dominated by Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace early in the season last year? Shaq wasn't getting elevation in his jump and Detroit was man-handling Miami earlier on until the playoffs.

My point is, regardless of size, just the reputation Shaq holds is enough to give the Lakers/Heat an advantage on the floor, especially on offense because he can hold his position down low and create spacing for their role playing 3 point shooters. It also made Kobe/Wade's game much easier because you have a guy who could finish. Wells is a different case. If he does his moves well, he might be reliable 1 on 1, but it does nothing to the people around you and it hurts chemistry. This is two VERY different situations.

 

My goodness! This public display of passion is a bit much for a guy who, for all intents and purposes, still appears to be deeply bitter about his former agent screwing up his free agency thereby costing him millions of dollars. Lost in all of the "We Got Bonzi For Nothing!" hoopla was the statement (BEFORE he signed) that he was only planning to be here for the year PERIOD. While it's true that a player with his skillz would or could be that extra something this team is missing, it's equally true that such a thing can only come about if said player actually WANTS to be here and play to win. I think Will is dead-on here because I have never gotten any indication from Bonzi that such was the case.

In a sense, Bonzi can't lose: If he plays and plays well, he'll get paid next season no matter where he lands. If he has a major falling out with JVG & the Rockets and ends up getting put on ice ala T.O., then he'll still get paid next season no matter where he lands. After, it didn't hurt T.O. did it? There will always be another team that's so desperate to win that it will look the other and take a chance on this guy. As for the Rockets? Well let's just say that you get what you pay for...

 

I don't think a fat Shaq is a great defender. That's how players like Brad Miller was able to pour in so many points against him, because Shaq can not guard the perimeter.

Here's the OTHER part of this comparison. Who's playing if not Shaq? Mourning did well, so Shaq actually split time with him. Who's playing behind Shaq in LA?

Snyder/Head is a nice variation of the 2-guard while Bonzi gets himself back in shape, or so we hope.

 

By Sam Fisher's and Some other poster's opinion your last name enables you great skills even to th epoint of arriving out of shape and not game ready.

They believe the last name will carry that player far. Ignoring Shaq's fat rear.

These players could do whatever they wanted and can live by a double standard. Sad sad day.

 

They can live by a double standard because they have earned it, that is why, sometime next decade, they will be in Springfield and Bonzi won't

 

It is that kind of mentality that has allowed T.O. to do whatever he wants and get huge minutes of publicity on ESPN.

It is that kind of lunacy that got O.J. Simpson off a murder charge and prison time.

It is that kind of mentality that is sinking the American dream and making a mockery out of our justic system.

NO one, I repeat No one, desrves to be allowed to break the rules.

 

couldn't have said it better.....stop acting like Bonzi deserves super star treatment...he is NOT and never will be a superstar.....a fat out of shape bonzi is no use to us....if he can't get in shape, Bouncy Whales must go!!
I love that nickname....I'm going to hold up a sign at the game calling him Bouncy Whales ...i'm guessing Bouncy will come into the stands and kick my ass, but its ok, maybe I can get a piece of that 2 million we are paying him...he doesn't deserve it ....

 

and when he comes after you, please run away fast... Maybe chasing you around the arena will get him in shape.



I'm showing up to the Knicks game on Monday with a sign that says "Throw the Bonz down the Wells, so my Rockets can be free"

 

How many good players do we have to see put in the doghouse and shipped off before everyone realizes that JVG is the damn problem here?

 

that'll make the rockets ALOT better.

 

That's the problem, you see. We are not doing just fine. We allowed massive comebacks by Milwaukee, New York, San Antonio, and Chicago. We could easily be 3-6 now instead of 6-3. There is something very wrong with this team; it would be a mistake to stand pat.

That said, I think it is pretty clear that JVG and Bonzi are butting heads. One of them has to cave in, or one of them has to go. My preference is to dump both of them.

If that isn't possible, how about this: we offer to trade Bonzi to a team of his choosing -- on the condition that he agrees to sign a contract with his new team. This way, we could get a lot more in return for him than if we just traded him as is. To make the salaries match, we could throw in Juwan. We could end up with a pretty decent player this way.

 

so another team is going to give up a pretty decent player for having to take Bonzi Wells who burned himself off this team, sign him to a long term deal, and take Juwon Howard's albatross contract that no one wants? and we will get anything of value in return?

We are stuck with this team.

I am hoping that Bonzi will make it to the court, and come off the bench, play the post up game late in the 3rd qtr and work hard to get his stats since he is looking for a new deal, right when we usually collapse. I tihnk Bonzi will be the key in that.

Gundy is having his best coaching year so far since he got here, he has allowed the offense alot of freedom

 

we need Bonzi back...
it's ok, I got over our meltdown against Chicago.. JVG still sucks, but it's a good idea to give Bonzi a little time to get back in shape.. and by saying a little time, I mean 6 to 8 days, no more...

we need Bonzi back & we need him to start...

I see no sense in starting JHO and bringing Bonzi off the bench... now if Chuck comes back 100%, that's something else...

btw, is there any update on Bonzi's status??

 

Why are there people that are under the misconception that Wells can play the 4? I was listening to a sports talk show last night and the guy was saying "when Wells starts playing, he'll get some time at the 2, he'll get some time at the 3, he'll get some time at the 4."

What?

Bonzi Wells is a 6'5 shooting guard.

 

Man with Bonzi back, we can be building 20 pt leads up to the 3rd, letting T-Mac and Yao rest while Bonzi runs the offense and keeps the lead for the most part.

Come 4th quarter, T-Mac and Yao come in once again, and we have 30 point blowouts!

Oh the possibilities!

I want to see Bonzi play regularly by January at least.

 

OK, putting aside whether trading him is a good idea or not, when could Bouncy be traded? Isn't there a time limitation for a trade after a contract signing? Anyone know?

(does anyone seriously believe Bouncy could be traded, when he couldn't even get off the inactive list in Houston, for a larger contract than he has now? One that would have to be an extension, I guess? Surely, there are a bazillion reasons a scenario like that couldn't happen.)

I'll accept a terse answer!