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Bonzi for Jackson didn't work out from a winning standpoint

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. poprocks

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    Our only chance is if Alston plays the point. Other than that, all of our PG's suck.
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It all depends on what we get this offseason or before the next trading deadline. If we get someone who really makes a difference, then yes you are right.

    But it still was a questionable trade in my opinion, why trade away a guy who had settled into the rotation on a team that was firing on all cylinders and finally starting to gell.

    Bonzi was the guy who could take load off of t-mac and all provide us a spark off the bench inside. Landry has failed to do that, and so has Harris.
     
  3. Nelly

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    If you think Bonzi would've made a difference in this series, think again. His offense is all about posting up, and with the Jazz having most of it's players near the paint, Bonzi would always run into a crowd. If Bonzi starts hitting a good % of his jumpshots, maybe, but he hasn't done that all season. Bottom line, we just need someone other than Battier who can hit perimeter shots.
     
  4. GATER

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    Like I told you last summer about a comment on the pluses of signing Amir Johnson...SCREW YOU.

    You are trying to make this a black and white issue when it's clearly not. You absolutely have NO idea of how accurate the initial diagnosis was or WHEN it occurred. The only thing that's stupid around here is your thinking that on Feb 21 Yao was pain free and on Feb 27 he was "suddenly" out for the season.
     
  5. el_locoteee

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    Yes Bonzi can run the Point better :rolleyes:

    Didn't we lost to Utah at home with Bonzi in the team.
     
  6. Untraceable

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    Alston suck too, but Rafer needs to start even though I feel like bobby is a better player that just had a bad shooting night...I havent gave up on bobby yet, and I never gave up on luther, BUT i am starting to believe luther is a regular season player and is completely worthless in the playoffs..I was probaly only one of a few fans that does like luther.....
     
  7. pippendagimp

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    From my recollection, Yao said that after leaving the doctor's office he had contacted Morey and Adelman himself and informed them of the news that he would require surgery.

    And as you mention, I also don't know whether to believe this scenario or not. However, doctor-patient privelege may in fact be applicable here in which case Yao may have indeed been the first to learn of the full situation before the team knew itself.
     
  8. cjstukenholtz

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    Bonzi did not play for the Rockets in the last postseason along with the last few games of last season since he basically quit on the team and JVG.
     
  9. leebigez

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    People can belittle the trade all they want, including u DD, but Bonzi helps this team way more than jax with or without yao. Bonzi is the only guy that can get his own shot with size. not to mention he spells ur most important players in tracy and shane, is tough and can battle a guy like hardpring. Even if they didnt know yao was going to be hurt, why not cover ur bases on a guy thats been hurt for the last 2 yrs. Furthermore, if shaq can be traded, why cant u trade mike james? How did the rox get mike james? they traded howard who had 1 more yr left than he did. Its not like james had a max contract or something. if nothing else, u can trade his 5.5 ml for someone and why did it have to be bonzi? Why wasnt head offered instead of bonzi? What the purpose of having head if u have jackson and novak? i guess. I didnt graduate from MIT and never played hoops like morey, so i guess he know more than everyone else do.
     
  10. H-TownBBall

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    I will agree that we lost out on a talent level, although it is arguable that we needed a serviceable veteran PG more than a wing player. Morey has done a good job of stockpiling expiring contracts. He will have Jackson, Francis, and Novak adding up to 9.4M. Head may also be expiring depending on if we picked up whatever options on him (1.9M). He also signed Harris and Woods to non-guaranteed deals for next year that can be traded to a team wanting even immediate salary cap relief (staying under the luxury tax) (1.2M). When you add in that we can get a player up to 125% of the additive value of these contracts, we can get something like a 13 to 15M dollar player. That is potentially a max contract type guy we could get in the offseason.

    Obviously Les would have to open up his wallet, but we can basically do what the Lakers did this year with Gasol. This puts us in the Arenas, Jamison, Richard Jefferson, Joe Johnson, Redd, Kirk Hinrich, Jose Calderon, Jason Richardson type of player area. Not all of these players are attainable, but I bet we especially could get a guy like Richard Jefferson. Talk about the 3rd scorer we have been looking for.
     
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    What, the same team that can't win a championship themselves? :confused:

    Let's face it, the Bonzi for Jackson trade was dumb from a talent point of view, smart from a money point of view, end of story. Provided that Yao comes back strong, then the Rockets will do alright.
     
  12. TheFreak

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    Yeah, this is a minor point. Probably didn't even need to mention it. Also, let's kick off a playoff series with AARON BROOKS starting. Sounds great.
     
  13. Drexlerfan22

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    Irrelevant. Perhaps Bonzi helps us more than Bobby in this series, but the trade was made with the expectation that Jackson would fit well with Yao (along with everyone else).

    You don't make player acquisitions on the assumption that your best player will go down come playoff time.
     
  14. javashot

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    u idiot. if we didnt have bobby jackson who would start?
     
  15. BrooksBall

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    The defense part is true but it's tough to talk up BJ's ball handling, especially after last night's game.

    Moving beyond a single game, Bobby is still not a very good dribbler. Alston and Brooks both have much better handles than him.
     
  16. el_locoteee

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    Im talking about this season with this team at home, the game we lost Yao for a game.
     
  17. Shroopy2

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    Depends on what they thought of forgotten man Mike James, if he'da been a serviceable option or not. Something tells me might have been if Brooks and Head are what you're going to the playoffs with. He was at negative value the time of the trade though, so by himself was a loss worth getting rid of.

    We also dont know if Bonzi would leave the Rockets, or if resigned by the Rockets to a decent deal would have stayed motivated. So its kind of 2 potential problems worth dealing away.

    It was a money deal all the way for future seasons. We'll know in 2009 how this shapes up.
     
  18. WNBA

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    when you have Rafer as a starting PG, you have a galring huge hole in that most important position. Our management are panic as hell:
    VMAC, JLIII, SF, Mike James, Bobby Jackson, Brooks, Head....... seriously, they've tried everything to replace Rafer......but none prevail.
    Rafer is that good and that bad in the same time.
     
  19. el_locoteee

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    Bonzi :p
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    except bjax doesn't plug any holes and taking bonzi away creates one.

    So now instead of one hole we have two.
     

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