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[BOMBSHELL] "Russian Collusion" - Democrats knew it was a lie from the start

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jul 23, 2025.

  1. krosfyah

    krosfyah Member

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    Yea, and it's funny for you to accuse the Dems of consolidating power when the Dems don't actually have any power.

    Being an authoritarian means you have supreme power.

    Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck...

    So I'm not mad at Trump for winning elections. Politicians have always sought to exercise their given powers. The scary part is the use of said power to expand his power and then institutionalize that expansion, the breakdown of checks-and-balances, and basic democratic principles outlined in the Constitution and bill of rights.

    His next, and final step, towards authoritarians is eliminating free elections. Then the takeover will be complete.

    ------------- quotes about the next election ---------------

    “Am I allowed to run again?” and “Should I run again? You tell me”
    Trump - Feb 2025

    “There are methods which you could do it,” the president said when asked whether there are strategies on the table to allow him to seek another term. Welker mentioned a possible plan in which Vice President JD Vance would run in 2028 and then “pass the baton” to Trump. “Well, that’s one. But there are others too,” the president said, before refusing to elaborate. ...“I’m not joking,” Trump told Welker, reiterating, “It is far too early to think about it.”
    CNN Article March 30, 2025
     
  2. krosfyah

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    The Democrats are people, American people. Trump has not restored power to the people. Exactly the opposite.

    Regardless if you believe the Democrats feel like they are entitled to power, the Democrats don't actually have any power right now.

    Trump has all the power and his power is growing by the day. That is literally exactly opposite of what the founding fathers were trying to accomplish.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    JPMorgan and Bank of America ‘debanked’ Trump under pressure from Biden admin over January 6th: Sources

    https://nypost.com/2025/08/05/busin...rump-under-pressure-from-biden-admin-sources/

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    JPMorgan and Bank of America “debanked” President Trump for his role in the January 6 Capitol Hill melee following pressure from the Biden administration’s banking regulators and the Federal Reserve, people with direct knowledge of the matter tell The Post.

    The exact reason for Trump and his tens of millions of dollars in holdings being kicked off the JPMorgan banking platform, and then denied access to Bank of America’s services has yet to be reported.

    But sources at the banks — the No. 1 and No. 2 largest in the US in terms of assets — confirmed the cause stemmed from the controversy surrounding Trump’s actions that day, and threats from Biden’s bank regulators that banking the former president’s money put them at in danger of falling afoul of rule that prohibit financial institution from doing business with individuals and companies that present a “reputational risk.”

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    A Bank of America spokesman declined comment. JPMorgan said in a statement: “We don’t close accounts for political reasons, and we agree with President Trump that regulatory change is desperately needed. We commend the White House for addressing this issue and look forward to working with them to get this right.”
    more at the link
     
  4. basso

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    couldn't agree more. but you're 15 years late.
     
  5. krosfyah

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    Trump wouldn't be president now if 15 years ago it was an authoritarian regime. Ask Putin about that.

    Obama never said he would run for a third term. He said just the opposite, that he respects the constitutional 2 term limit.
     
  6. adoo

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    OT, you do know about the bankers' motto,
    thou shall not lend to convicted felons, no?
    refresh my memory, how many times has Trump been indicted?





    you're parroting a convenient false narrative,
     
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  7. basso

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    Obama used the power of the federal government to suppress dissent, politicized law enforcement, the attorney general's office, U.S. attorneys, FBI, prosecutorial functions, IRS audits.

    these are things you accuse Trump of wanting to do.

    Obama actually did them.
     
  8. krosfyah

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    I have proof you are wrong. Obama is not in power. Trump is.

    All presidents use their power to execute their office. Not all presidents use the office to consolidate power and then refuse to relinquish power. Trump did that on J6 and he said he'll do it again so he can run for a 3rd term.

    Whatever your opinion of Obama, that is moot as proof is in the pudding.
     
  9. basso

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    we have proof of Obama's tyranny as well.
     
  10. krosfyah

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    Obama would still be in office if he was a tyrant cause tyrants don't do peaceful transfer of power.

    But if that is what you believe and your response is well both guys do it, then that means you support tyranny.
     
  11. cml750

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    It may not be the case here in the D&D but the majority of Americans want justice for the crimes committed during the Russiagate conspiracy.

    https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...m/69_agree_russiagate_requires_accountability
     
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  12. basso

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    Trump has not done the things Obama did. get back to me if and when he does.
     
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  14. krosfyah

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    This has nothing to do with Obama, he's gone.

    Historically, any coup is not successful the first time. There is always a dry run or two.
    Trump already had his J6.
    Trump dispatched the National Guard to California.
    Trump dispatched the Marines to the TX boarder.

    Trump already said he's interested in running for a 3rd term.

    By the time we "get back to you", it will be too late. The all-powerful Trump will have no more obstacles in his path to cease permanent power. All checks-and-balances will be gone.
     
  15. basso

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    this entire thread is about Obama and his role in the Russia hoax.
     
  16. krosfyah

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    Yea, I want accountability too but I recognize it won't happen. I think most Americans recognize that. Trump has consolidated too much power and broken down the necessary checks-and-balances to prevent justice. The SC already ruled that one man is, indeed, above the law. The President is allowed to do anything he wants as long as he does it within the capacity of being president.

    The bigger issue now is, how do you stop the train that has built momentum? Trump will not stop, clearly, until he has 100% control. He's probably 90% there already. If he wins the mid-term elections and holds onto the house and senate, next up is he'll win the next presidential election. And the takeover is complete. Alligator Alcatraz will become normal operating procedure for everyday Americans.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    Trump won a MANDATE election -- sweeping all battleground states, while taking the Senate and House. This is democracy and it's EXACTLY what the founding fathers envisioned. A popular leader being empowered to govern according to his mandate. The will of the people.

    Simply because you happen to disagree with his policies does not change this.

    The liberals might just win an election if they invested in building a policy platform that is desirable by voters... instead of trying to dishonestly overturn lost elections using the DOJ, intel agencies, and every branch of government possible.


    GOOD DAY
     
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  18. krosfyah

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    Nope. This thread is about the GOP attempting to spread propaganda to prop up his majesty.

    This thread has NOTHING to do with Obama. Obama is gone and he's not coming back. Obama poses no lingering threat to America.
     
  19. krosfyah

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    This issue isn't Trump's mandate. This issue is Trump's aggregation of power towards monarchy.

    “The tendency of a republican government is to an aggrandizement of the executive power till it terminates in a monarchy.”
    Alexander Hamilton, June 18, 1787, Constitutional Convention


    “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

    Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800

     

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