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bolton's tell-all book...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 17, 2020.

  1. Blatz

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    lol hiring only the best one year then hating him and being able to quote his book soon after... Smh lol


    I've seen some of these cult member's facebook pages and how they completely turn on former trump's best hires when they leave and say something negative about their dear leader. It's like they have an emotional break down and start "yelling" at their screens calling them deep state traitors, washed up liars....It eventually turns into something about Obama or Clinton.
     
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  2. jo mama

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    imagine hiring someone to work for you that you later go on to claim is a traitor and a sick puppy.

    imagine bragging about how you only hire the best, then when they leave you fight with all of them and say how terrible they are.

    imagine repeatedly taking the word of a proven pathological liar over everyone else.
     
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    This makes zero sense. Even Atheists quote the Bible. So what?
     
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    Imagine defending a crook worse than Nixon, smh.
     
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    "John Bolton and our collective yearning for justice":

    https://theweek.com/articles/920256/john-bolton-collective-yearning-justice

    excerpt:

    Yes, the days surrounding the publication of Michael Wolff's Fire and Fury, in January 2018, were memorably hectic, with turncoats revealed and allegations — such as the author's claim that "100 percent of the people" in Trump's orbit considered him unfit — leveled. On the day it was released, Trump called the book "Full of lies, misrepresentations and sources that don't exist" and later declared Wolff "a total loser." The cycle was soon repeated with Bob Woodward's Fear (which Trump called "a con on the public"), Andrew McCabe's The Threat ("a puppet for Leakin' James Comey"), and Omarosa Manigault Newman's Unhinged ("Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!"). There were books by Comey, former aide Cliff Sims, and an anonymous administration official. All painted damning portraits of Trump, and all were bestsellers. None had any effect on the president's political fortunes.

    The latest addition to the shelf is John Bolton's The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir. Bolton, who resigned as Trump's national security adviser in September, alleges that the president begged China to help with his re-election, thought Finland might be part of Russia, and wants journalists to be killed. Though the Justice Department is trying to block the book's publication on national security grounds — and seize the $2 million that Bolton reportedly received for it — it seems likely that on Tuesday, hundreds of thousands of people will be reading it for themselves.

    Despite the gravity of Bolton's charges, there's a throwback naivete to how everyone — from the public to the media to the president himself — is responding to his memoir. Its leaked details have been breathlessly reported (in a typical front-page analysis, The New York Times tells us that "an 'erratic,' 'impulsive' and 'stunningly uninformed' Mr. Trump could make 'irrational' decisions"). Trump, dutifully playing his part, this week called Bolton a "wacko" and a "sick puppy," and said that the book "is getting terrible reviews." Bad reviews notwithstanding, readers, caught in the maelstrom, are lining up for it. "John Bolton's damning indictment of the Trump presidency is soaring up online charts," The Guardian writes. It has "knocked anti-racism titles by authors including Ibram X Kendi, Ijeoma Oluo, and Robin DiAngelo off the top spots."

    Fire and Fury, the first of the genre, was initially seen as a legitimate danger to Trump; just 12 months into his term, we thought that a book could damage him. We were so young. "It takes a thief to catch a thief," wrote The Los Angeles Times, "and Michael Wolff ... is the ideal hustler to capture President Trump." Wolff told the BBC that Fire and Fury was creating "the perception and the understanding that will finally end ... this presidency." And though it caused a rift between Trump and "Sloppy Steve" Bannon, the strategist who supplied its harshest details, there was no wider fallout; the thief slipped away unscathed. Trump's job approval rating two days after Fire and Fury's publication stood at 37 percent; one month later, it was up 3 percentage points.

    If it seems inexact to use a metric like job approval to judge such a book's success, we should ask ourselves what we expect these books to do, and why we read them at all. Forty-two months and countless exposés into Trump's presidency, we now understand that The Room Where It Happened is unlikely to move the needle. As my colleague Windsor Mann recently put it, "In terms of effecting political change, Bolton's book will be as inconsequential as the United Nations resolutions he made a career out of deploring." And why wouldn't it be? Impeachment, the dread "nuclear option," proved to be a quixotic failure; no matter what Trump might have said to Chinese President Xi Jinping about soybeans, the Senate will not remove him from office for it. So why do we care so much?

    For 200 years or so, an informal system of political punishment served America reasonably well. If an official was found to have done something untoward — sanctioning bribery, bugging an opponent's campaign headquarters, posing for a photo with a model on his lap — there would be repercussions; voters would be forced to reappraise the offender in light of what he or she had done. If you were Warren Harding or Richard Nixon or Gary Hart — people who strove to present themselves to their supporters as virtuous — your name would be stained, and your career would likely cease.

    But as we all know, Trump plays a different game. Instead of virtue, he preaches a seething, primal badassery, so his offenses never surprise. He has been credibly accused of bribery, campaign meddling, and philandering — Harding, Nixon, and Hart in one convenient package — and each time, he has survived. Yet whenever a book like Fear or The Room Where It Happened is announced, the public rushes towards it — not because we think it'll make a difference anymore, but because it might have in the past. For all the chaos of recent years, we still yearn for justice. There must be consequences, we hope with our weary, Trump-addled brains. Maybe these truths will do what truths are supposed to do.

    It is the poignant self-delusion of a country — or at least half of it — that, three and a half years in, still cannot accept its fate. We'll cling to any scrap of truth — even if it comes from John Bolton, who Democrats have long regarded as a vile warmonger. It's a childish belief in some benevolent, balancing force. And though we might rationally know that no such force exists, our politics are profoundly irrational.
    more at the link
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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    And, any lawsuit is not to protect the American people, but to protect the needs of donald trump...

     
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    Is Bolton in jail yet? The Criminal in Chief said he broke the law.
     
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    He submitted the book twice for review.
     
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    Just when I think they cannot be anymore incompetent.

    The real news is that the manuscript did get approval.
     
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    Win win... book comes out, bolton doesn't profit.


     
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    Bhahahahahaha

    That’s some freaking Karma right there. There is justice in the world at least on some level.
     
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  18. No Worries

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    One would think that the Criminal in Chief needs to show that Bolton’s book has actual state secrets, in order to put Bolton in jail or sue him civilly.

    I will not be surprised if this is the DoJ last legal action against Bolton.
     
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    I truly have to ask @Commodore , as a republican and conservative myself...does going to your echo chamber websites and pasting tweets seem healthy? You can’t close yourself off from potential truths like that

    “x and y are liberals, can’t be trusted”. Far right members that have worked closely with trump, including every general has come out and denounced him. At some point you have to exercise free thought
     
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  20. NewRoxFan

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    LOLOL... and even better... I am hoping this criminal trial gets swift justice. Like, some time in the September/October time frame. Loving the thought of discovery on this one... you go barr and doj!

     

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