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Bolton Recess Appointment

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jul 29, 2005.

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  1. wnes

    wnes Contributing Member

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    FB: Bush in reality more frightening than Kim.

    gwayneco: Libs scarier than Bin Laden.

    :eek: Mirror image? :eek:
     
  2. RocketMan Tex

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    Is this kind of talk really necessary, gwayneco? :(
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    The Dems were correct in investigating and objecting to Estrada. That is the political process.

    I'm sorry if the American political process bothered Estrada's wife. But the democrats did not do anything to her. To claim that is waive off the personal responsibility that conservatives are supposedly so serious about.

    I can think of welfare recipients who have had much harder things happen to them than having the political process investigate their rich husbands. Yet I doubt you would excuse or even take responsibility for many of the hardships that physically healthy welfare recipients undergo.

    How Estrada's wife deals with her problems, is neither the fault nor credit to Democrats and the political process.

    What is disgusting and makes someone a moron is when they use Estrada's wife possible dependency on alcahol, and sleeping pills or other health problems to attack political opponents. Those types of things should not be politicized.
     
  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Oh please, you have flung more poo than anyone on this board. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a catapult for your right arm and a self dispensing toilet paper attachment on your elbow.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    In reality yes. Scarier to me. Scarier to Americans.

    Let me ask you which is scarier to you, a king cobra, or a wasp?

    The King Cobra is capable of doing more damage to you, should the unlikely event come about that you ever have to confront a King Cobra. But in reality which one is more likely to cause you pain?

    It is the same with Bush, and Kim. It is doubtful that Kim would have any way of hurting us here, and unlikely that he would if he could. I agree Kim is more of a dictator, crazier, and far more brutal, and a worse leader than Bush.

    But Bush is the only one capable of selling out American ideals, increasing terrorists willingness to attack the U.S., destroying the credibility of our nation, alienating allies etc.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    "You are a ****ing moron... You have no sense of decency."

    :D
     
  7. RocketMan Tex

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    Pot meet kettle. However, I have never called anyone a "f*cking moron" on this BBS. I never even called you that, T_J. Go figure!

    :D

    Now watch Clutch pull out a post from seven years ago where I called someone a f*cking moron! LOL!
     
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  8. Oski2005

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    :rolleyes:

    Yeah, calling somebody a ****ing moron and blaming somebody's death by overdose on an entire political party are prime models of decency. If that's your idea of decency, I'm glad to be the exact opposite.
     
  9. jo mama

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    When it comes crashing down, and it hurts inside
    Ya' gotta take a stand, it don't help to hide

    If you hurt my friends, can you hurt my pride
    I gotta be a man, I can't let it slide
    I am a real American
    Fight for the rights of every man
    I am a real American
    Fight for what's right - Fight for your life

    Well I'm feeling strong about right and wrong (Ooo yeah)
    And I don't take trouble for very long.
    I got somethin' deep inside of me
    Courage is the thing that keeps us free

    I am a real American
    Fight for the rights of every man
    I am a real American
    Fight for what's right - Fight for your life

    I am a real American
    Fight for the rights of every man
    I am a real American
    Fight for what's right - Fight for your life

    If you hurt my friends, can you hurt my pride
    I gotta be a man, I can't let it slide
    I am a real American
    Fight for the rights of every man
    I am a real American
    Fight for what's right - Fight for your life

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  10. FranchiseBlade

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    What if someone called me a ****ing moron, and it hurt my feelings really bad, so I o.d'd on sleeping pills and alcahol. Did the person who called me a ****ing moron do that to me? Or did I do that to myself?
     
  11. Sishir Chang

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    While tragic its over the top to blame this as some sort of villianous plot on Democrats. Everyone pretty much knows that the politics in DC are often ugly and personel and both parties play hardball. One could just as easily say that the actions of the GH Bush campaign were responsible for Kitty Dukakis's depression and drug abuse or the depression suffered by James Hormel who Clinton recess appointed to an ambassadorship because of vicious attacks on his personal life made by Republicans.

    The fact that politics is a very tough business especially on families of nominees and politicians is one of the main reasons cited by many for not running for higher office.
     
  12. Sishir Chang

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    To a certain point I have to agree with SM. I believe more Americans are against the Admin and were in the last election but the problem is whether the Dems. are effectively organized enough to focus that. Like it or not the Republicans, particularly the Bush political machine, has proven to be better organized than their opposition. That doesn't mean there aren't trouble signs that have to do with how much will moderates and fiscal conservatives in the Republican party stay with the agenda? So far when things have gotten tough even moderates like Olympia Snowe have still supported overall the Bush agenda.
     
  13. real_egal

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    When can you ever accept something wrong is wrong, without spinning for your agendas? What has his other posts to do with the fact that particular post he pointed out is tasteless and plain wrong? What, only those rightous ones can criticize some wrong-doings of others? Where are those rightous men, you or any political figure? I thought according to the Bible, noone is rightous except Jesus.
     
  14. real_egal

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    Agreed. Republicans did far more better a job than the Dems. On the one hand, Dems are more moderate, so they are more loosely organized; on the other hand, I think Howard Dean said it well about the Dems' problem. They tried to please everyone, on the end they lose their own support. If you are a true liberal, you have to tell it as you think, not just assume what others like to hear about. But I guess it's too much to ask politicians to forget about the votes, and stand up to their principles, if they have any.
     
  15. wnes

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    Well that particular post of mine wasn't well versed. I was trying to point out how ironic it was for gwayneco to counter liberals' criticism of Bush with the "same" kind of hyperbole he despised. I guess it's pretty common for someone to go "extreme" when he sees things he dislikes. I myself may have acted similarly from time to time.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    I think I came at it from the wrong angle.

    I was just seeing my post compared to the Gwayneco's. Anyway I was more trying to provide further rationale between my comparison, than trying to refute your post. sorry if it was confusing.
     
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    Oil.
    Iran is next.
    Bolton has a purpose in this.

    Everything going according to plan. Enjoy it while you still can.
     
  19. wnes

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    I heard it on the radio today:

    1) Bolton was booed yesterday when he was introduced in UN -- as reported in MSNBC's Hardball -- an unprecedented spectacle.

    2) Bolton was courteously assigned to occupy in one of those top 10 stories of the UN building in New York which he once said he could care less if they were wiped out.
     
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    Bush accepts UN Ambassador Bolton's resignation

    President Bush has accepted the resignation of United Nations Ambassador John Bolton when his recess appointment expires on January 6.

    "White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said President Bush was 'surprised' when Bolton submitted his letter of resignation on Friday and that the president 'reluctantly accepted' it," reports CNN White House Correspondent Suzanne Malveaux.

    http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/AP_Bush_accepts_Boltons_resignation_1204.html
     

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