BOKI gets career night, 1 game after National TNT game

Look man you obviously didn't watch much of "Nique in his prime.

Barkley was lazy and didn't do what he could, Wilkins was the exact opposite.

He was no loser.

Any time he had even th slightest support his team was a contender, but they never had enough help and were in a tough conference.

And to really prove you wrong, you must have never watched the 1993-1994 season.

When they traded Wilkins it was basically handing the Rockets the title.

You can argue it all you want but man you have no idea what kind of a player he was.

 

Whatever, I think someone has been sniffing the Human Highlight Film's jockstrap too much.

Now you're talking out of your @ss.

Huh?!? So I guess a certain Bull wanting to play baseball had nothing to do with it? (for the record, I think we could have taken the Bulls, but hey I'm a Rox fan).

Now I KNOW someone has been deeply inhaling the Human Highlight's jockstrap.

 

I can't agree with you more. So far I only saw them attack DD for his so called "inconsistency" by picking his words here and there in his 20000+ posts.

Boki just proved a lot you guys wrong. That is root of this debate.

 

That is the root of your debate. The root of my debate is how he jumps back and forth between opinions from day to day, week to week, then points back and picks when he was right and says "I told you so". For every Boki, he has a Langhi, Badiane, Griffin, Swift, hell was Posey in there? lol. It would be hysterical to list the times he's gone from a "JVG needs to go" mentality to "JVG's starting to grow on me" mentality.

 

So what, a lot of us have been undecided between these two opinions...even Les is not sure, otherwise he'd have extended JVG already.

 

Don't lose your cool Dakota. Didn't you say in another thread you were just ribbing (I think you spelled it "rubbing") people. Well, take some of the ribbing back. Quit being a sissy, Dark Lord Empirical of the Data DeathStar.

I don't re-write history. You re-invent your opinions weekly despite the fact nothing has really changed in the big picture.

What is it Dakota? Do you want me to leave you alone? Does it hurt when your own words are used against you and you have to re-interpret on the fly? I'm not trying to get under your skin, you're just letting it get to you because your position is indefensible. Why? Because for every time you said X, I can prove you said the opposite. You don't have an opinion, you have a meandering noggin' that goes into spasms after every game.

Hey, maybe we can make a comedy out of this. Let's see how many times you've changed your opinion on JVG. From "he's great" to "fire him" to "he's growing on me" to "he's an idiot". lol.

lol. "Dunce Boy". Yeah, we know you wouldn't get involved in any name-calling. Alright Dakota, it's obvious you can't handle being wrecked, so I'll lay off. But damn I long for the days of when people on this board would say something and be held to it or face ridicule. I was just longing for those days. I'll politely step back and watch the Circus of Opinions that is DaDakota. I'll just sit back and watch and chuckle as Lord Empirical makes his next definitive opinion. Heck, I won't even embarrass you and prove you're either a liar or someone with a weak memory by showing you how you more than "hoped" Badiane would become a player.

PS - Don't forget to give us an update after tonight's SAS/NJ game.

 

Dakota,

man

Im not gonna flame you, and eventho I have needled you on occasion about the same thing that Dunk and NIKE are owning you about, you can't be *this* blind.

ITs gotta be about your pride.

But

its here, your own words and common sense add together to your total and complete ownage.

admit it, and lets move on


If it helps any, I liked Boki alot (check my posts about him) adn I still will never give up my Boki bobblehead, and I couldnt be more pleased that he is starting to get it......I was wrong in giving up on any hope that he would be a good NBA player after 4 years..

but I can admit it.

 

I have to give you major props for actually responding back to some of DD's posts. Wow. DD is really getting owned in this thread.

 

I ain't bothered one bit.

Boki has proven to be a good player as I have ALWAYS predicted.

I liked the trade because it was clear that JVG was never going to play him.

Totally consistent.

LONG LIVE BOKI !!!!

And he was not so hot tonight against San Antonio.

As for JVG, again, I am CONSISTENT....I like a lot about JVG...but there are flaws in the way he coaches that I think will ultimatly cost the team a chance to win it all.

I do appreciate his candor -sometimes - but I think he is inconsistent in his treatment of players....as in the next time he criticizes Tmac will be the FIRST time.

JVG is a good coach...as I have always said, but I don't think he is a championship coach....which I have also ALWAYS said.

One does not necessarily rule out the other.


DD

 

Well, needless to say I disagree with this post....

Owning...LOL - picking one of my posts about Boki and thinking it says EVERYTHING about him, when I have been consistently saying he would be a good player and even BET on it here with Sam Fisher...which I won by the way.

DD

 

I liked and still like Boki. The fact is he never evolved here and I don't think ANY team was going to wait 5 years for him to finally get it.

 

And Rick Adleman is?

 

How is that inconsistent? It's sheer brilliance. T-Mac is the team's best player and also just so happens to be a whiny, low self-esteem having, self-doubting, pouty little b**** (for lack of a better phrase). Would you rather JVG go at it with him like Rivers and have T-Mac start pouting again? He rides him because it keeps him happy and thus the team wins. He rode Cato for the same reason - Cato had just as low a self esteem. Although he has nothing but positive things to say about Yao now, a few years ago, all he did was trash Yao because Yao can take it. He doesn't take crap from Bonzi, Snyder, and V-Span because they're not bigger than the team. McGrady probably is.

This might be your signature phrase. It's the classic DD "retreat and hide after an outlandish comment and come back with a middle ground to save your ass." It's no secret you wanted JVG gone. He's now safely in position to win Coach of the Year. So now you like him, but he's not a championship coach, whatever the hell that means...riiiight.

 

Or, it could just be MY OPINION !!! So, now I am not supposed to qualify opionions even it it is how I feel.

WTF ever !

It is no secret that I don't like JVG all that much, but there are things about him I do like......but if it were my team, he would not be the coach.

Check their records, I believe Adleman is a much better coach than JVG.

DD

 

LOL. Didn't see this gem until now. What happened to "This team has no heart."

This team's goal isn't winning a championship. This team's goal is not finishing with the worst record in the league. And they're now firmly in position to possibly win a championship. Yet...we don't have a championship coach. Unbelievable.

You took a team with a 55 year old Mutombo, 45 year old Howard, the worst pg in the league, McGrady's back liable to fall apart at any moment, and Yao gone possibly for the year, and you found a way to rip them to shreds on a consistent basis. Those guys had no business accomplishing what they did this year, keeping our title hopes alive, and now that they've done it despite all odds, you want to jump back on the wagon and say you love the team. Hilarious.

 

It's disgusting that you somehow appoint yourself to be the judge of whether other posters love the team or not. I have no doubt at all that DaDakota is a huge Rockets fan, whether you want to believe that or not.

 

Much better? Adelman's regular season % is about .030% better than JVG, which translated to about 2-3 wins over an 82 game season.

 

I guess Adelman's teams are more fun to watch if you focus more on offense. On the other hand, JVG's teams are much better defensively.

 

Adelman has also been blessed with some of the game's best offensive players... in Drexler, Bibby, Peja, Webber... and hasn't managed to do more than JVG has done (despite better talent).

I think Adleman is a coach who does better when he has good talent (but falls flat on his face when he doesn't). I think Phil is showing that even his venerable zen-ness isn't enough for a team without multiple superstars.

JVG gets more out of less... I always felt that way, and this year simply proved that. I see a tireless worker who doesn't ever ever (ever) settle for complacency (which was a knock against Adelman towards the end of his Kings run). Hell, JVG would rather quit than simply go through the motions and collect his check for a team that doesn't have the heart to win (as he did with the Kincks).

But, sure, he's not a "chapionship coach"... whatever the hell that is. I guess it means any coach that hasn't won a championship isn't a championship coach... thus Poppovich wasn't one in 99, and Rudy wasn't one in 92.

Jerry Sloan must not be a championship coach either... and ironically, he's the ONLY guy in the NBA I'd rather have right now coaching the Rockets over JVG. I would have said Phil 3 years ago, but I don't think he has the motivation anymore to be as tireless of a worker that JVG and Sloan still are.

 

Jackie, you post in this forum? I didn't know the jurisdiction of your stalker fetish for MacBeth, Batman, and to a lesser degree myself extended out of the D&D. Go figure. I will have to be more careful in constructing my arguments now.