BOKI gets career night, 1 game after National TNT game

No, I get that people read the posts as coming from an arrogant perspective rather than just a fan discussing basketball. It is the same thing with email etc, people rarely get the tone intended in an email especially if they have issues with the person that has posted or has sent the email.

You and I have clashed many times before, therefore I think it clouds your ability to read my posts without thinking of them in the worst possible manner.

By the way, here is what you said about Langhi.

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Admittadly you put some qualifiers in there, which I also do, has your opinion about Langhi Waffled now?

And if so, why?

Eh forget it, me posting about a player I always liked clearly gets under your skin.....and you don't like the "I told ya so" aspect of my post.....got it.

DD

 

And you think Boki can fit in and flourish under Pops??? Pffft...

You can take you're same points about Pops and fit it in JVG, he doesn't try to make players do what they can't do....VSpan included. THey just sit if they can't contribute.

Feel free to become a Spurs fan at anytime.

 

The point is that Pop adapts his system to take adavantage of some players skill-sets. He rarely asks them to become something they are not.

An example would be that he does not ask Tony Parker to shoot 3pt shots, yet that is exactly what JVG is doing to V-Span.

Yeah, I have probably been a Rockets fan longer than you have been alive, so don't count on it buster.

I can admire another coach and his style, especially when I find the coach we currently have lacking....again...IMHO.

DD

 

Haha. Your ability to search and destroy is weak. No my opinion was one of "I don't know" at the time. Unlike you, who with every changing post, thinks his knowledge or statement is absolute... for that day anyway. Until the "empirical data" changes. And no, you don't put qualifiers in there for half the stuff you post. I admit my ignorance about a lot of things basketball-related, so I have to put qualifiers there. I don't follow college basketball, so I couldn't make a definitive statement about what Dan Langhi would be, but based upon what I saw of him in college and his SEC PoY, I thought he could be a player.... but you didn't see me post that he was absolutely or definitively this or that. That's something you're known to do and take credit for when you're right, but somehow ignore when you're just as definitively wrong. That is my only issue.

I joked about Boki and wish him well. I joke about VSpan, but wish him well. I just have seen absolutely nothing on the court that leads me to believe VSpan, for example, deserves more minutes than a JL3. I also wouldn't want to give more minutes to someone who speaks badly of me in a foreign paper - it's human nature. My final memories of Boki as a rocket were him playing against summer league competition and for the most part stinking it up. I remember when he used to drive for the Rockets, he would turn the ball over repeatedly. I remember when he used to pull up for a jumper, I kept saying "his shot looks good but it's just not falling". But nothing made me think we should keep this guy from a basketball standpoint - especially after the tiff that he and JVG (?) allegedly had.

So, congrats to Boki for apparently breaking out of his funk - I'm still reserving opinion as to how good a player he is. He's showing now he is good enough to stay in the NBA. I wouldn't have said that a few years ago, however. I'm sure as hell not going to start a thread about it, though... lol.

 

Yeah, but you don't think that it would be kind of ridiculous to change an offense that revolves around two superstars to develop a backup PG?

And though you disagree, Parker and Manu were scorers and VSpan can't really shoot well


FYI (not that you care) but I personally enjoy the fact that you dislike JVG and complain about him...it gives me something to debate over, which is more refreshing than everyone agreeing about everything.

 

Watch out... this post will be quoted by DD and followed up with, "I never said I dislike JVG... I just think he doesn't do x right, doesn't do y right, really fails to do z sometimes, and Pops, Rudy, Adelman, McMillan, and basically 29 other coaches are better. "

As Calvin used to say, "if the left one won't get you, the right one will..."; this is the art of "covering all bases" by a guy who already admitted he has opinions that are basically inklings, that change when he's proven wrong, but change back again when its conveinent ("I am sometimes right, sometimes wrong, nothing more."). I call that talking out of your ass... not good fan discussion.

The problem is that you have failed to EMBRACE a team that has JVG's stamp all over it (and if you have embraced them, you're in the closet about how great a coaching job he's done).

Seriously... provide me one tangible argument about why this team should be a TOP 4 seed in the west, even with the injuries, when you have teams like Denver, the Clippers, the Kings, the Lakers, and Minnesota (in addition to the obvious - Dallas, Suns, Spurs) with more collective talent on their roster (when you take away a Yao or T-mac).

Chuck Hayes, Luther Head, Juwon Howard, and the 40+ year old Mutombo would be left for dead if they were on some of those rosters... but here, they are vital pieces to the puzzle that should have made them a top 4 team even without Yao or T-mac?

I guess it's that ****ty system.

 

DaDakota repeatedly said that he is just a fan. He also said that he was wrong several times. I think calling him a "liar" because he might have changed his mind is uncalled for.

And what exactly are you basing the "arrogant attitude in proclaiming your opinion" on? DD makes a lot of posts, it's entertaining, it's not all going to be right, but why do people feel the need to gang up on him for that?

In the end, we are all armchair GMs, and we all root for the Rockets. There is no need for all that hostility.

Go Rockets!

 

If you think Dominique was a loser, then you NEVER EVER saw him play a playoff game.

He was one of the greatest competitors ever.

worst post in a long long time.

 

So you are saying your opinion changed?



And Nick is right, I don't hate JVG, I just find his offensive system lacking in creativity.

On defense I think JVG is very good, but again lacking in that he fails to adjust his system to other team's strengths.....IE you can not guard Phoenix the same way your guard the Knicks.

I don't see a lot of adjustments in the Rockets system, perhaps he is saving it for the playoffs...

And, I would have no problem being wrong......

And Nick, you are completely and utterly wrong, I have embraced this team, and am excited about the season. But my tendency is to worry about the things that I think might stop the team from acheiving it's goal, which is winning a championship.

DD

 

Is this thread about cheering for Boki or dissing DaDakota?

 

BTW, anyone arguing with DA in this thread, just exposes themselve as a blind Jeff Van Gundy worshipper.

But don't worry, DA you know ownership is not pleased that a player Van Gundy used improperly, then threw away and said was garbage is now playing like an athletic dunking version of Peja. And that he now is doing the same to Spanoulis (message to JVG worshippers, management keeps saying Spanoulis is great, yet JVG refuses to use him properly)


PS............


All the people saying things like "he just shows he can play in NBA for a little bit, or "just now contributes a little on a losing team" or whatever BS, seriously get a freaking life.

 

I have my haters....people who read my posts in a way that is preaching rather than discussing.

Sometimes I deserve it, sometimes not..



DD

 

Just to keep facts involved, Nachbar was about two weeks shy of 22 when we drafted him.

 

You are correct he was 21.

DD

 

Actually, I was wrong. The draft was June 26 and his b-day is July 3...so he was exactly one week from 22.

 

Our offense doesn't not revolve around Vspan. Tony Parker is just the same as Avery was. A penetrating point guard with not much of an outside shot playing alongside a dominating inside presence and several outside shooters. Yesterday's Sean Elliot, Jaren Jackson, Mario Elie, Vinny Del Negro are today's Brent Barry, Manu Ginobili, Michael Finley, and Bruce Bowen. Pop's system has never changed, he gets players who fit the system, players adjust to his system. David did when Duncan came in and took the driver's seat. Finley is also adjusting to his play. JVG isn't about to change his system for the likes of a 2nd round pick who has yet to even establish himself as a rotation player.

 

He's a legend in the making, just because we share the same birthdate

 

Sex,

Interesting take, but I don't recall anyone on the old Spurs who was a player like Manu, someone who can penetrate and dish and is creative for the other players on the floor.

I like the Spurs system better I guess.

DD