BOKI gets career night, 1 game after National TNT game

And when we have a team full of young players that need developing, JVG won't be the coach... but we currently have a team with a near-prime Yao, and a prime T-mac... they need to win now.

Also, JVG really sucked at developing Yao... I hate what he did to him, turining him into a low-post domination machine.

I wished he would have been more like Brad Miller.

 

zomg. you've all been going at this for a month now. will this ever end?

 

Horry was a cutter in both of those years, and in the first year Kenny Smith and Otis Thorpe ran a TON of pick and Rolls.

I agree that it was based on Hakeem, but my memory about the system is fine...Sam Cassel's mid range game, Robert Horry shooting 3s and cutting through the lane, Kenny and OT running the pick and roll....

Tmac does run some pick and roll, but most of the time it is a pick, with a roll that has no purpose... a true pick and roll sets up options....the only players on the current team that roll with a purpose are Chuck Hayes and Yao Ming the rest are just setting a screen.

I agree, the team is better, but should be a top 4 team in the West with the talent the team has....even with the injuries....again, just my opinion.

DD

 

How do you know that Yao would be worse if he ran more high post offense?

Why not utilize ALL your strengths?

I like Yao on the block a lot, but I would also like to see Yao at the high post some as well, as his height would allow him to see over the defense and hit back door cutters etc.

I would LOVE it if Rick Adelman was the coach instead of JVG.

And the main crux of this thread is that Boki is a GOOD player, as I said ....all along.....and if the Rockets would have developed him some instead of putting him out to pasture, he would be doing it in Houston.

29 points, 7 rebounds......40% 3pt shooter......come on !!!!

DD

 

TGDDINOC

- Thank God DaDakota is not our coach

WWDDS?

- When will DaDakota stop?

 

Hmmmm......another groupie following me around without anything to say....aren't you the one who said he was depressed?

You add no value to this conversation, do yourself a favor...and bug off.

If you start slinging personal mud, it could get ugly for you, now go take a zannex and chill out.

DD

 

Not as long as either Boki or DaDakota is breathing...

 

I can't believe people are still questioning whether he is a player....the guy can seriously play....

DD

 

Yes, it was me. Did you just laugh it off when you read it? Thanks... you're a great human being.

 

And has been proven, you're a liar.

 

No actually, I was concerned, and hope you get your stuff together. But for you to come into a thread, follow me around and simply bash...is pretty pathetic.

If you have some content to add, then by all means add it, but if you make fun of a poster or make it personal, be prepared for them to come back at you......

DD

 

I didn't question he's a player... well ok, maybe I did, lol. I just question your honesty and sanity as you flip-flop from post to post, thread to thread and then pat yourself on the back as you do it.

 

What a bunch of crap D.o.D....I have been consistent about Boki from day one....DAY FRICKEN ONE !!!
I am NOT, nor have I ever been a liar, that was uncalled for.

I don't flip flop, my opinions remain consistent, I think you have an issue with reading comprehension.

There are times that opinions change based upon new data...ala Bonzi Wells....but for the most part my opinions remain unchanged.

Take Boki for instance - I knew that JVG had given up on him, so in that regard the trade was ok....BUT...I would rather have used Charlie Ward's contract to make the trade work......keep Boki...develop him...and watch him do what he is doing as a ROCKET !!

Hell, I bet Sam Fisher after the trade, isn't that proof enough that I believed in him??????? ALL FRICKEN ALONG !!

DD

 

Great job tonight Boki, I always knew he'd be a playa.

 

Why would the Hornets want a Ward contract with two more seasons over a guy that can play and has potential? Seriously?

Also, he really did look great tonight.

 

This is just stupid.

IF i change my opinion, I do it because of emprical data, and new facts.

But, for the most part, my opinions about players and coaches are rock solid and consistent.

You just don't like that I was right about Boki, and may be proven right about V-Span too.

And what is wrong with coming out and pointing it out? Having a little fun, why does it bother you so much?

If and when you get something right, feel free to post about it, I am sure I won't be in the thread trying to prove you wrong.


DD

 

As I recall, Boki was thrown in, the Hornets really wanted Jim Jackson.

DD

 

1-2 posts occasionally replying to you is not following you. I don't think I have said anything any more personal than what DoD has said on here. I will take it upon your suggestion to add content when I have something to add to this discussion but unfortunately that may take years, as time will tell on all players... not a few good or bad games. (although it may only take 1 year for Boki to be out of the league JK) I am just saying though... don't you think there's a reason why everyone is against you on this particular topic and some others? But hopefully you are right someday... DD. As I always root for the underdogs.

 

No, I know he was a throw in, but if you were a GM would you prefer Ward's 2 years or a player that has a small chance of being good under contract for the same amount of time? I just don't blame the organization for trading him at the time. We needed Wesley at the time more than we needed Nachbar. It was a good trade for our team in the short term

Man, he lights us up. I remember him lighting us up for 21 a few seasons ago as well. I'm glad he is contributing

 

I think people are afraid to admit they were wrong about Boki. They make up excuses about his play, but fail to realize the guy was like 20 years old, and was in an entirely new country.

The Rockets should have done a better job of protecting their asset (Boki) by mentoring him.

Nick is right, it took some time for Boki to get it together, but I HONESTLY feel this would have happened sooner and in Houston with the right kind of coaching. Rudy would have been MILES better than JVG for developing Boki...IMHO.

People like to point out the negatives in Boki's time here, but we are talking about a developing player...they are going to struggle and need time ON THE COURT to figure it out.

And the reason I point out Boki so much is I see the same thing happening to V-Span, and I truly believe that he will GET it one day too, but he HAS to have court time to get there.

And, I don't think JVG is any good at developing young players, particularly ones that are creative types. I am convinced that JVG would NEVER have played Manu Ginobli....he is too risky for him.

And IMHO, you have to be able to live with SOME risk to win it all.....

The reason being that in most cases team's will find a way to shut down what you do best, and a creative player (like Tmac) will find other ways to beat you......V-Span is that type of player.

DD