BOKI gets career night, 1 game after National TNT game

Boki 2-2 7 points so far tonight against Rockets... Keep watching

edit: Boki on FIRE

 

Boki looked like an all-star tonight!!!

 

No surprise, Vince Carter is consistently inconsistent. Tonight he played like garbage. And he is playing like that for a good amount of time now. He is a Loser!

The only bright spot of Nets is Boki. As I said before, he is one of the only two guys who play well almost every night (the other one is Kidd, although he can't shoot).

I will write Boki in next year's all star game if he keep it up.

Go Boki!!!

 

Good game tonight.

 

Boki can play, did you see those cuts to the basket...man he could be the this Rocket team's Robert Horry, at least on offense, if we didn't toss him away for nothing.

DD

 

Don't you mean if we didn't trade him away ... period?

"I have to give CD and JVG credit for changing what wasn't working and finding pieces that do work." -- DaDakota after the Boki/JJ for Wesley trade.

 

But Robert Horry WAS Robert Horry during his first 3 years in the NBA (including his rookie year).

Boki didn't "get it" till he was left for dead... I wished he could have gotten it earlier so we didn't end up wasting a 1st round pick on a guy who clearly needed 4+ years to work on a game that would allow him to stick in the NBA.

There are plenty of guys in all sports who didn't "get it" till their backs were too the wall. They were forced to revamp their game in the off-season, and work their asses off to finally cultivate a mindset that would allow them to be successful in their respective leagues.

Boki apparently needed not one but two wake up calls from teams not giving him a chance... I'm glad he finally got the message, but I won't fault the organization for constantly trying to improve the team.

 

Nick, he was what? 19 or 20 when we drafted him? Of course he is going to take longer to develop than a 22 year old Robert Horry.

And, if you remember, we had to TRADE Robert Horry to get him to take those shots.

DD

 

Quit taking it out of context...you know I was refering to Jim Jackson...and the fact that JVG was not going to play Boki.........

The very fact that I bet Sam Fisher that Boki would score 7+ ppg with New Orleans proved that I still believed in Boki...

Just not JVG.

DD

 

So, you're basically proving my points... that Boki was never ready to be a contributer as a Rocket ... even though Rudy thought he could have been and started him the first game of the season... only to realize that his game as it was didn't translate to the NBA level.

And, players respond to being left for dead (Boki) far more often than if they're coddled along and allowed to make the same mistakes over and over again without repercussion.

Once again, I wish he would have shown more improvement in his shot/strength/defense/rebounding during the first FOUR years of his career. He didn't. He needed to be on his last legs of an NBA career before he put in the work needed to do so. Good for him... more players should take notice and work harder on points of their game that need improving (then maybe guys like Boki would be given multi-year deals, instead of the one year contracts).

 

doing the "man boki rocked that game, if only he was still here" talk is like seeing you're ex being happier with her new BF more then when she was ever with you. She's probably happier because maybe he's better looking, has a bigger schlong, better personality, etc.

Boki has found a system that fits him, he's better off there then being lost in ours. The trade at the time was good, it pushed us to the playoffs.

 

The trade did not need to include Boki....we still could have gotten Wesley and kept Boki but JVG and Boki had a tiff.

And Nick, I am saying if you draft a 20 year old player, be prepared to develop him and wait a couple of years for him to be a main contributor.

No need to toss him away so quickly.

DD

 

Is that verified, or is this just what you suspect?

 

Sorry bud, that is not what you said. You never stated that. The best defense you have is that you hated to see Boki go, but it was a good trade by CD and JVG. Those 2 things were mentioned in the same post. Don't go back and revise history now. It's archived.

The irony of this comment is why you get toasted on here. You want to read something even funnier about you now commenting you didn't believe in JVG? Here's a quote from you in the same post my previous quote of you was in :

"I also agree with your take on the mental aspect of the game, this is one area that I also like JVG, we need players that hate to lose and understand how to fit in and will work to make the team better, perhaps JJ, Lue and Boki were not doing that, who knows."

Yeah, boy, that was some disbelief in JVG. Sounded more like disbelief in... *gasp*... Boki. Whew. After that you go on to congratulate JVG and CD as stated previously. Sounded like you were ok with it to me... oh yeah, but this is another day... everybody do the DaDakota Flip Flop. Hey maybe your next startup should be sandles... or something to go with Mrs. Butterworth syrup... I don't know... say... waffles.

Nobody says you don't/didn't believe in Boki. We're saying you believed in Boki, but believed in JVG after the trade, then maybe didn't believe quite so much in Boki, and then hated JVG long after the trade, and now BOKI IS GOD and you're saying you doubted JVG! You're comical. I don't think you have any clue what you believed in from day to day.

 

It is what I recall from discussions about it when it happened. If I recall correctly Boki's contract was under 1 million and there were other options on the team that would have worked.

DD

 

So you give every 20 year old 5 years before they show they have a pulse? Boki needed to get stronger, work on defense, and on top of it all, HIT A WIDE OPEN JUMP SHOT.

I could see by year 4 that wasn't happening... in fact the entire league saw it or else he'd have been a hotter commodity. We also needed somebody who could HIT A WIDE OPEN JUMP SHOT, and you know that Boki wasn't that guy in 04-05 (while Wesley most certainly was).

Instead of ridiculing the Rockets management, give credit for the ONLY guy responsible for this happening right now... Boki himself. I'm ecstatic at the Rockets team they have now... trouncing boki-led teams by 20+ points when Yao and T-mac are clicking.

 

if we kept him, my bet is that he would never realize his potential. so that trade is a blessing in disguise for Boki. you should be thankful for Boki's sake then that the trade happened.

 

They would have let him go as a free agent anyways... you think he was going to get a multi-year deal from Houston after his game showed ZERO improvement from his rookie year?

 

No... its more fun for DD to blame JVG and management instead.

 

Here is a decent article that may contribute to the back and forth conversation about Boki and his early years with the Rockets....

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A Highlight-Reel Dunk Shows How Far Nets’ Nachbar Has Risen

By JOHN ELIGON
Published: March 10, 2007

HOUSTON, March 9 — Nets forward Bostjan Nachbar slashed down the middle of the lane, launched himself toward the rim and, before anyone could react, his knees were dangling in the face of Philadelphia 76ers center Samuel Dalembert.

Nachbar had nearly jumped over one of the league’s best shot blockers to throw down a one-handed dunk Sunday that earned him the top billing on highlight reels and had his teammates screaming in disbelief. Among those teammates was guard Eddie House.

“Everybody assumes white men can’t jump,” House said before the Nets practiced here Thursday. “But he can jump. He’s an athlete, has a lot of size, and there you have it.”

That play was perhaps the defining moment of Nachbar’s fifth N.B.A. season, which may prove to be a breakout year.

Nachbar, who is from Slovenia, is showing that he is more than a spot-up shooter. He is displaying explosiveness toward the rim and showing the versatility of a slasher, the qualities that led the Houston Rockets to draft him in 2002.

“In Europe, I was never designated just as shooter or just as slasher or just as one thing,” Nachbar said. “I think I was just designated as a forward who could shoot, drive and pass.”

When the Nets played the Rockets here Friday night, Nachbar hoped to show the Houston fans more than he did in his time here.

Nachbar’s best numbers with the Rockets were in his second season, when he averaged 3.1 points, 1.6 rebounds and 0.7 assists. A month into his third season, he was traded to the Hornets. He joined the Nets in a midseason trade last season, a deal the Nets made primarily to save money.

Nachbar said that his disappointing play in Houston was the result of his own deficiencies and the system he was playing in. As a rookie, he played for Rudy Tomjanovich, who left after the season. Jeff Van Gundy took over, and Nachbar had problems adjusting. If Tomjanovich never left Houston, Nachbar said, his career might have gone differently.

Under Van Gundy, “I don’t think I was used the right way,” said Nachbar, adding that he had no bitter feelings toward Van Gundy.

“I think they were trying to make me a different kind of player than I really was,” Nachbar said. “They were looking for somebody who is a tough-minded defender, who is only a spot-up shooter, who is not going to try to create something for himself, who’s going to make no mistakes, basically. As a rookie and as an inexperienced player, that was pretty tough for me. It didn’t work out.”

Van Gundy, while praising Nachbar, said he did not feel the system contributed to Nachbar’s inconsistency in Houston.

“Good players play well, average players play average, bad player play bad,” Van Gundy said in a telephone interview. “Now, he’s getting to do it all.”

This season, Nachbar, who is 6 feet 9 inches and 221 pounds, has developed into one of the Nets’ best reserves. He was averaging 8.2 points and 3.2 rebounds through Thursday.

He has matched or passed his previous career high in scoring, 21 points, four times. He had scored in double digits in five of the Nets’ previous eight games, including a career-high 26 points against the Toronto Raptors last month. In that stretch, he shot 54.2 percent from the field and 43.6 percent from 3-point range.

Nachbar’s penchant for attacking the basket has been the most startling aspect of his rise to prominence. His first step is a blur, and he never seems hesitant when he rises to the basket.

Maurizio Gherardini is familiar with those scenes. He was the president of the Italian club Benetton Treviso when Nachbar played there and is now an assistant general manager with the Raptors.

“Boki’s an unbelievable athlete,” Gherardini, referring to Nachbar by his nickname, said in a telephone interview.

“If you let him jump, he can fly out of the gym. He’s one of the greatest jumpers I’ve ever had on any of my teams.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/10/s...l?_r=2&ref=basketball&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Boki Highlight-Reel Dunk They Referenced In Article (From Earlier In March Against Sixers)

http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.p.../recap_923_njnhou.asx&video=blank&nbasite=nba

ALSO, 1st HALF HIGHLIGHTS OF TONIGHTS GAME (Nets/ Rockets)
http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.p.../recap_923_njnhou.asx&video=blank&nbasite=nba