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boki/billy and novak thought

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cuneo77, Mar 10, 2007.

  1. groovemachine

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    Yeah, seeing how he played that great tenacious D and all to earn his pt...

    :rolleyes:
     
  2. Achilleus

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    If the Rockets were in ninth place the eastern conference maybe they could give a lot of minutes to Nachbar too...
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    If the Rockets kept Boki they would be competing with San Antonio for the 3rd spot in the Western Conference and home court advantage.


    See how fun it is to guess?

    :D

    DD
     
  4. Achilleus

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    Except I'm not guessing. The New Jersey Nets are in ninth place in the east.

    Bostjan Nachbar's best seasons in the NBA have been with bad teams. This year and the New Orleans Hornets in '04-'05.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    You are guessing as to what his role or impact would be on the Rockets.

    It is not apples to apples, New Jersey's team is strange to watch, they have a lot of individual talent, and a great passer in Kidd, but they just don't mix well at all.

    IMHO, Boki would have been a nice complimentary piece here in Houston, on this team, a good 6th man to produce scoring off the bench. Yao passing out to a 6'9" guy who can shoot the 3 ball or when pressed slash to the basket & finish is exactly what this team needs.

    Oh well, he ain't here, too bad for us.

    DD
     
  6. TBar

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    Well - he is 6' 9" and can shoot. He has more game than Luther and our coach plays Luther at the point. JLIII should be in the NBDL and he gets minutes. So it is not consistent.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Average to bad defenders currently playing for the Rockets.

    Luther
    Alston
    Bonzi
    Tmac (rests on defense)
    Howard
     
  8. Achilleus

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    Again...you are the only one guessing as to what his impact would be here. I have only stated facts (his 8 ppg were on terrible teams). Anyway, I wouldnt need to guess what his impact would be here, I've seen it when he was here. He doesn't fit in this system. If he did then the Rockets would not have traded him...and probably would not have flourished, as they did after that trade.
     
  9. TBar

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    Sorry - I do not see us flourishing now with David Wesley
     
  10. Achilleus

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    :rolleyes:

    You know I meant AFTER we trading him that season.
     
  11. Outlier

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    Some of you guys (TBar) make me believe that you aren't even a fan of the Rockets with the comments you make.
     
  12. TBar

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    See that is where you are so wrong. I support this coach because he is the coach of the Rockets. I never wanted Van Gundy to be our coach. He is now and I will live with it.

    I support the Rockets. I have been with this team through thick and thin. I am a season ticket holder and attended games when our starters wouldhave been 2nd string anywhere else. Rudy had nothing to work with.

    I was so excited when we got the rights to Griffin. what a disappointment!

    I would like to see a way to work snyder in. We need someone besides T-Mac who can slash to the basket and keep the defense honest.

    With Boki we had both-a slasher and someone who could really shoot the 3 and keep the defense honest.

    We gave him away. I'm glad for Boki he is doing well now.....

    Never forget that I am a fan
     
  13. Achilleus

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    Nachbar shoots .384 from three. Is that really good? He's a lot closer to Rafer Alston (.373) from there than either Luther Head (.432) or Shane Battier (.425).
     
  14. vator

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    That really isn't even the worst of it. This is the very first season in 5 years that he has shot better than 39% from the field overall. He had some percentages that made Rafer look like a sharpshooter.
     
  15. Major

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    Those may be average individual defenders - what makes them work is that they've bought into the TEAM philosophy. You think a team with 4 average-to-bad defenders in their amongst their top 7 players would generate the best defense in the NBA?

    That's the entire point you miss. JVG's system requires people to do what he says, which creates results far superior to the individuals involved. One player not doing his role probably screws up the entire thing.
     
  16. TBar

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    I am a Rockets fan. I support this team. I support this coach because he is the coach of my team. I can love my team and not like the coach.

    He is part of the package-I support him.
     
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    Last time I looked I believe Boki was shooting about 45% overall from the field and about 84% from the foul line.


    He is a better shooter overall when all 3 categories are considerd by far than Alston and also over Battier.

    When you add in that he taked more and also often some harder shots than Battier does well.


    He is a better shooter than they are.

    Is he a great shooter?

    Probably not.

    Although he is improving his consistency he is still not consistent.

    He has all the tools to be a great shooter except the consistency.

    But he's still very good already and he's better for sure than Alston or Battier at least right now.
     
  18. arbpro

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    Who would waste time talking about a complete scrub of a player who has career stats of 6 - 2 - and less than 1 assist per game? Answer: The same idiots that waste all their time talking about irrelevant players like Billy the Kid. Pretty much describes DD doesn't it?
     
  19. vator

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    I think you must have misunderstood my post. What I said wat that this is the 1st time in 5 years that he has shot better than 39% and that some of his previous percentages were even worse than what Rafer is shooting this year. This year Boki has picked it up to 44.4 and 38.4 from the arc. He still disappears too much though in some games.
     
  20. Rockets Dynasty

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    True, but Battier and Alston are also very inconsistent shooters, Alston is as streaky as they come.

    All I am saying is that Boki's inconsistent shooting really isn't a fiar excuse to say that is why JVG did not use him so much and why it was good to get rid of him because this is the thing that made him a bad fit.

    If this is really true then we have many players who should be not playing atl all including Battier who appears to be JVG's favorite player outside of T-Mac and Yao.

    In other words, the shooting argument is not really valid IMO because Nachbar even in the start with the Rockets was shooting well.

    In fact he shot better when he playod off Yao and T-Mac than anyone we have now including Head.

    It should be analyzed deeper by people and then should be obvious to them that Nachbar was not discarded because of shooting, which seems to be the argument that is constantly made.

    He was even shooting 10-21 from 3 when he was discarded for "poor outside shooting" according to the logic of many arguments being made here.
     

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