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Bob McNair: We’re working on getting a quarterback

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rawbrah, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. zeeshan2

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Osweiler's agent is pushing that Houston interest HARD.</p>&mdash; Aaron Nagler (@AaronNagler) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/707230572091932673">March 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  2. CisBuds4U

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    probably just for negotiating leverage, as any good agent would do. Not sure I want the Texans pushing 'hard' for Osweiler either, pretty risky move IMO, but we are desperate for a QB so...
     
  3. Nimo

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    Ok so you're thinking of him as a plan B if they can't get Brock.
     
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    I'm 50/50.

    I definitely get the leverage play angle. Lord knows we've been used before.

    However, there is also some smoke out there about Osweiler not being happy with Kubiak. Both for his benching AND apparently that he doesn't love the offense.
     
  5. zeeshan2

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Broncos and Texans are primary potential landing spots for QB Brock Osweiler. (via <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter">@AdamSchefter</a> &amp; multiple reports) <a href="https://t.co/OdNQ6uJsNZ">pic.twitter.com/OdNQ6uJsNZ</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/707235071846162432">March 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    I've resigned myself to the fact that they are targeting Osweiler as their Plan A.
     
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    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/08/pro-better-fit-for-brock-osweiler-broncos-or-texans/

     
  8. gucci888

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    Lol. Exactly how has he proven to be a steal?

    Yes he was drafted in the 2nd round but he is 2 years older and going into the 2nd to last year of his rookie deal. The Pats just extended Brady so barring injury to him, there is a good chance he could just walk at the end of his contract. This is similar to what they did with Mallett, drafted a good prospect who will be a super cheap backup and get something for them before their deal is up. Difference is theyre getting a 3rd for a 2nd rounder versus a 6/7 for a 3rd. But I would think about giving up our 2nd for him if that's their asking price.

    Not to mention that the Pats don't have a 1st rounder this year so an extra pick could be a premium for them.
     
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/15701/as-the-texans-make-their-push-what-to-know-about-brock-osweiler

     
  10. Nick

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    I agree that if they're going to consider trading Jimmy G, this would be the ideal year... Brady still showing little signs of regressing, they don't have a first round pick this year, and Garropolo will be a free agent after next year.

    However, I don't think they give him away for anything less than a 2nd... and it may require multiple years of picks to get it done.

    Even though it seems like a long-shot that Garropolo is the QB of the future for the Pats... we've also seen just how fast everything can fall apart for older QB's. The Pats would obviously want to avoid a situation that the Broncos are currently going through if Brady takes a precipitous drop this year like Manning did in the second half of 2014 and throughout 2015.
     
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    Was not particularly impressed by osweiler last season. He threw for 10 tds and 6 INT. He was not great just good, average.

    Besides, he was benched for manning already last season. He's not really good.

    Just sign Griffin, and draft a qb.
     
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    They not signing Griffin... he's not Texan Worthy lol.
     
  13. Indaface

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    Don't love this move but if must be done, sign Brock, Lamar and Benjamin...then load up on all defense (and maybe some o-line if we don't bring our guys back) in the draft.
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    Wow... just... wow.

    How has a QB with 15 career pass attempts in the NFL "proven himself to be a steal"? The twists and turns you guys engineer to hammer home what you want to happen...
     
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    And if they did, and he then flopped (like Ed Reed)... which is entirely plausible... its just another Texans mistake, right?
     
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    He has the most appropriate name on CF because every post he makes is like a massive clank off the rim.
     
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    Of course it's a risk taken that didn't pan out. Imagine if Warren Moon wouldn't have panned out... lol Ed Reed was hand picked by Bobby McNair too... he loves a brotha in the secondary he even said Vince Young could play there if he joined the Texans lol
     
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    All of those guys have had a bigger sample size of play than Osweiler. I mean i get that he did play well in a few games last season, but I don't think we should throw away that much money on someone that could be beat out by Hoyer (not saying it'll happen but nothing is a given with an a largely unknown QB who has only had a small sample size in the NFL thus far).

    If it's a shorter deal, I guess it wouldn't too bad. Like a 3 year deal maybe, anything more would be too much.

    If he signs a cheaper/shorter deal, that would be solid.

    He hasn't had THAT much experience to say he's light years ahead of any rookie QB. If you're talking immediately as in next year, then yeah, he's obviously a better option than a rookie QB. I'm thinking about long term though too, but that all largely depends on the contract. If the risk factor isn't super high, then I'm not really against it. I can get on board with a 36 or 39 mil for 3 year type deal. If you start going above 15 though and the length of the contract increases, then I'd rather not take that risk.
     
  19. Nick

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    You do realize that Warren Moon was one of the most sought after free agents, and at the time signed the richest deal in NFL history, correct?

    Of course there were racist overtones as to why he wasn't drafted in the first place.... something that wasn't the case when RG3 was drafted 2nd overall.

    I have no idea why you're brining race up... but if the comparison is that Warren Moon had just as big of a flop-factor as RG3 does now, I don't know if its possible to have an actual constructive discussion with you.
     
  20. Hey Now!

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    He's light years ahead of any rookie QB; he doesn't lose that head start. He's been in four NFL training camps, under Peyton Manning's wing; he's started NFL games - meaningful games with playoff implications. This year, next year... Brock Osweiler has a decided advantage, in terms of experience.
     

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