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Bob McNair: "Right now I have a coach"

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Dec 1, 2009.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

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    I think a lot of people aren't being realistic about Bob McNair. If Gary Kubiak wins 9 games, I think he is most likely keeping his job whether they make the playoffs or not. If he wins 8 games it's still not a guarantee he is fired. The only way I see him guaranteed to get fired is if they win only 6.
     
  2. WoodlandsBoy

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    If they lose the next game at Jacksonville you should fire Kubiak. Thats it. The season is over. We should bring in Cowher or maybe even Bill Parcels.

    I would love Bill Parcels on this team. Although I would keep Kyle Shanahan.
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    1st price is a Cadillac El Dorado

    2nd price is a set of steak knives

    3rd price is your fired!

    Get the picture.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    If they fire Kubiak they are most likely not going to be able to keep Kyle SHanahan or Gibbs.
     
  5. Vinsanity

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    BRING IN THE CHIN
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    It would be a shame if we lost the ZBS Czar. That scheme has worked so well this year.
     
  7. Smokey

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    I think this needs to be restated. Wow.
     
  8. Creepy Crawl

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    Yes! Chin Life!
     
  9. kaleidosky

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    Not sure why that's a relevant fact. If you said every other team has either made the playoffs or fired their head coach *and then made the playoffs* since Kubiak was hired... then ok.

    But just b/c other teams fire their coaches quickly for not making the playoffs doesn't mean it's the right formula. Clearly it's not working for everyone.

    I think Kubiak should be fired for less than 8 wins....and 8 should be 50/50 or so. But I just don't like the logic above
     
  10. justtxyank

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    This is a great point and one I make everyday in the car when Palillo repeats this fact.
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    how has that worked out for the teams that keep firing and not making the playoffs?
     
  12. wallyj12

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    If we finish 8-8 again this year, I dont see how Bob can justify bringing the Pubes back. Another 8-8 season will be evident that, thats how far Kubiak can take us, his peek is a .500 ball club.

    This is Kubiak's first head coaching gig. After watching this season and thinking about the last couple of seasons I realized, an inexperienced, first tenure head coach is a TERRIBLE fit for us. Our nucleus is young and loaded with lots of talent on both sides of the ball. For them to reach their full potential and to learn how to not just win games, but FINISH games....play FULL games, these young guys need a LEADER, a proven winner who's been there before...Kubiak is just too green to be that guy. One of the new guys on 610 made a great point about how some of Kubiak's behavioral choices, such as not watching Kris Brown's kicks, just displays a lacking of confidence in your team. I mean, I dont blame him, Brown has had a pretty bad stretch, but as the coach and supposed "leader", you need to demonstrate faith and confidence in your team as if you expect them to win, expect them to make that kick, expect them to make that block, etc...

    Right now, the Houston Texans remind me of the movie 3:10 to Yuma (the new one with Christian Bale and Russell Crow). Russell Crow leads a group of some of the most dangerous, well versed outlaws in the world. The second Crow gets arrested and taken away from them, that talented bunch of killers turns into a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off. Sure they did some damage and managed a little without him, but the whole movie they were desperately searching for their leader because only with him could they go the furthest. The Texans are that group of outlaws and Gary Kubiak is not our Russell Crow (no homo)....
     
  13. desihooper

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    Kubiak has been doing this (turning his back on kicks) for a while now, not just this year. I think I remember him doing this during the game winning kick against the Dolphins in year 2 of his regime. I don't think that makes him a bad coach.

    The failure of his team to execute down the stretch reflects poorly on him. His in-game decisions (when to challenge, clock management, etc.) reflect poorly on him. I do think his players play hard (for him or for whatever reason). I don't see them consistently losing games due to lack of preparation (that Jets game is the only one that comes to mind when you heard players saying they felt unprepared and/or confused).

    McNair's biggest challenge is to figure out if Kubiak can get it sorted out and continue to grow, or risk having given Kubiak an internship that'll set him up to be successful at his next stop.

    You can see that the players are there (so can McNair), the schemes have been, for the most part, excellent. Maybe what they need is to bring in some veteran leadership to help get over the hump. Relying on young players with little to no experience in winning is what is holding this team back.

    The coach knows how to win - he's seen it at San Francisco and Denver. He's just got to get the players on the field to make those winning plays (or consequently, stop making losing plays) on the field.

    One more year, is my take. We're finally at the position where we can sell-out and go after a difference maker in the draft (Suh or McCoy at DT?) or make that big FA acquisition to bring in some leadership on the defensive side of the ball.
     
  14. justtxyank

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    I know you think calling him Pubes instead of Kubes (lol I get it!) was clever, but seeing as how he is clean shaven virtually all of the time, it's actually pretty stupid.
     
  15. ima_drummer2k

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    I don't know, man. I think they flat out quit against the Colts in the 4th quarter.

    Did you see those missed tackles on that Simpson TD run? DRob, DRyans, ZDiles, and Busing all just sort of let him run right over them. Busing is garbage so that's par for the course for him, but I didn't expect it from the other 3 guys.
     
  16. desihooper

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    I saw that as them trying to rip the ball from Simpson, thus not wrapping up. Simpson held onto the ball, broke the arm tackles, and went ahead and scored. They needed a turnover in the worst way, so giving up a TD is something that typically happens against a team that's trying to strip the ball rather than getting a guy on the floor.

    Anyone saw that or am I just needing to take off these rose colored glasses :cool:
     
  17. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, like I said in another thread, I re-watched the game last night and Diles did try to strip the ball, but the other 3 guys just missed the tackle. All at the same time. Unbelievable.
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    The only way I can justify firing Kubiak at 8-8 is if we can get Cowher.

    If we're 9-7, I'd have to flip a coin.

    If we can't get Cowher, the only way we fire Kubiak is if we end up 7-9 or worse.
     
  19. Pete Chilcutt

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    Id take Gruden, Holmgren, or Dungy if he were to ever consider coaching again over Kubiak. even with another below performing 8-8 season
     
  20. desihooper

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    I turned off the replay before that run, but that was my reaction to it live. Either way, here are some more comments by McNair courtesy of Mark Berman regarding Kubiak and his future.

    (from the article) McNair said there is a saying that he heard many years ago that helps guide him when it comes to making major decisions such as the future of Kubiak as head coach of the Texans.

     
    #40 desihooper, Dec 2, 2009
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