1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Blu-ray is ... [wait for it]

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by KingCheetah, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Dave2000

    Dave2000 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2001
    Messages:
    11,091
    Likes Received:
    813
    well I've always had one, still with my parents, and they got a Sony Bravia LCD 52 inch 1080p back in Sep, I'm never home enough to buy my own. I got the HD-DVD add-on for my 360 on "Black Saturday" at Fry's for $25, bought Transformers for it, and its freaking beautiful. I'm holding out for a BluRay player probably till next month when I get my bonus and hopefully I'll be lucky enough to find a Sony one for $200 or less.

    As for the Netflix streaming, I've only watched a couple of movies and episodes of Heroes. Looks fine on a regular TV I have in the game room, but probably look better if I have it hard wired since I have it wirelessly.

    I've got other things to store on a hard drive like pr.. :p

    seriously, I just have some fascination owning the media. I'm a DVD collector with over 300 movies, and recently stop buying them and holding out till I get a BluRay player and start buying BluRay movies. I currently buy HD-DVDs since well their cheap and if i don't own it on DVD, why not? (Heroes Season 1 $10 @ Fry's ftw :) )
     
  2. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    18,156
    Likes Received:
    8,574
    Over time Moore's law has snowballed to include many physics in IT, from CPU's, memory, storage space and even the internet. The internet was one of the latest developments to hold true to this law and is one of the first to fall out. I believe over the next few years we will start seeing a slow down in the IT world.

    Back on topic, we simply do not have the infrastructure to push out that much data on the internet.
     
  3. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    46,629
    Likes Received:
    12,030
    Blu-ray is dead to me right now. It isn't a compelling enough upgrade over DVD, yet. Secondly, I think owning video media is just silly. Why pay $15-$20 for a DVD when I can rent one for $4 (save for the occasional great movie). Building up a library of DVDs or Blu-rays makes no sense to me. If/when I start using Blu-ray, same principle will apply.
     
  4. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    18,156
    Likes Received:
    8,574
    I don't believe true blu-ray streaming is even possible with our infrastructure, whether its demanded or not. You simply don't see the difference on smaller screens and unless you have very large screens, there will not be a world of a difference. Going back to the VCR/DVD comparison, it was't so much of the DVD quality that made a difference but more of easy of use (no rewinding, ect..), going from analog to digital and less storage space. DVD to Blu-ray only offers eye candy.
     
  5. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    22,751
    Likes Received:
    12,492
    Blu-ray will go the way of the CD. People will still buy them but more people will choose the convenience of downloading content. People would just rather have it in soft copy without having to go to the store to buy it.

    I do a lot of Tivoing of my PPV's and its much more convenient. Eventually broadband will be fast enough to handle HD content where it can be trully on demand.
     
  6. SwoLy-D

    SwoLy-D Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2001
    Messages:
    37,618
    Likes Received:
    1,456
    Can you take your PPV's to watch over with your relatives or friends on THEIR PC's or TV's? This is the reason for the 'hard copy.' ;)
     
  7. hjg877

    hjg877 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2002
    Messages:
    897
    Likes Received:
    26
    I agree and disagree with you. Quality music is much easier to obtain versus video. I don't expect ultra-fast video streaming to come easy in the near future.

    Plus anyone would have to imagine that the movie studios would try and prevent much of the video streaming services IF that type of format is determined to ease piracy (would it not be possible to simply convert o "unlock" the video file, versus having to take the extra step of ripping the file from the hard copy?).

    On top of that, what happens if internet goes down? Having the hard copy is that much more reliable. Granted, I've used Comcast's DVR service to record HD movies and television programs and it's fairly easy to use and more than adequate. Not spectacular. There are times when signal interruption shows through on the programs and when cable is out I'm unable to obtain my recorded media at times.

    However, multi-terabyte storage is feasible with these types of movie-streaming services in the coming years. However, can bandwith issues be resolved?

    I wonder if the abundance in the broadcast spectrum with the DTV signal will play any role in the streaming of digital media?

    Here's the biggest thing, in my opinion, that will prevent the end of DVDs/BRDs as opposed to CDs with MP3 devices: What if you want to watch the movie on another television? What about a friend's house? You won't be able to do that with streaming media.

    Even today, who realistically brings his or her XBox 360 or PS3 to a friend's house on a normal basis?
     
  8. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Messages:
    3,279
    Likes Received:
    23
    First off your numbers are off a bit.

    Rental is 4.99 for one week plus tax at blockbuster. You can buy most Blu-rays 12.99 no tax free shipping right now and in a year will be cheaper than that.





    For people saying they prefer the download versions, our bandwidth is not large enough to download movies this size to be fast and easy. Plus storing will quickly be a problem. The smallest HD movie I have is 5.5 gigs and only has DD 5.1 not any of the PCM audio that blu-ray offers.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    45,954
    Likes Received:
    28,047
    Yeah. I meant many people are perfectly fine watching a DVD unpconverted to 1080i on a 42+" HDTV.

    Perhaps BluRay is a luxury most people don't know what they're missing, but the arguments havent been too compelling. Maybe they should release more boxsets with Crackerjack prizes to boost collectability.
     
  10. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,898
    Likes Received:
    39,879
    Tell me where plz.
     
  11. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,898
    Likes Received:
    39,879
    I think this is the problem. BR just doesn't offer a compelling reason for most people to change. I have it now through PS3 only because of someone else buying it for me.
     
  12. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Messages:
    3,279
    Likes Received:
    23
    The internets, look on the tubes.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman 999999999
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    104,274
    Likes Received:
    47,160
    Its not just Bluray
    you need to have a complete package, a HDTV, receiver, speakers.

    how many people take advantage of bluray? I don't, but I enjoy it. I have 720p sony grand wega, and my bluray looks great. I don't care if its 1080p, cause its really not that big of a difference (i have friends with 1080p top of the line stuff). I'm using DD5.1 and DTS.

    for the person who really maximizes it. they needs a great 1080p TV (no crap brand), calibrated video, a receiver with the next generation Dolby and DTS and 7.1 speakers. And it has to be a decent brand.

    My 5.1 sounds better than a 7.1 with crap speakers and receiver.

    however, I like HD stuff so I have it. Its true, on some instances, upconvert DVD works fine. But certain Bluray discs show the best details - Dark Knight for example.

    The big issue is price and availability. Nobody is going to stop watch DVDs, if they don't have it on bluray, i'll watch it on DVD.
     
  14. DreamRoxCoogFan

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2007
    Messages:
    3,661
    Likes Received:
    175
    the only blu rays for 12.99 are the ones that no one really cares about. My average cost of blu ray so far has been about 20$ a movie. so yeah, if you do know where i can buy good new movies on blu for 12.99- dont hold out on me man!


    watching batman in IMAX and planet earth in blu are 2 of the greatest things I have ever watched on a tv.
     
  15. DreamRoxCoogFan

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2007
    Messages:
    3,661
    Likes Received:
    175
    also, my screen is over 130", so anyone could tell the difference between blu and dvd, no comparison (even with ps3 upscaling).
     
  16. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,898
    Likes Received:
    39,879
    Word. I can't find any good movies for 12.99

    Watching Planet Earth since Sunday. Amazing on the BR.
     
  17. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Messages:
    3,279
    Likes Received:
    23
    the only BD I have paid over 20 bucks for was batman DK.

    All the other ones I buy on amazon. I just bought American Psycho for 13 bucks.
     
  18. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    More fuel for the fire...
    ____

    Netflix streaming comes to LG TV this spring: Instant movies, no messy set-top box required

    link
     
  19. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    ...

    720p !?

    What a cheapskate.
     
  20. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,428
    Likes Received:
    945
    According to some gamestop employees, Blu-Ray discs are more resistant to scratches because of some kind of coating.

    You might have just had bad luck with some crappy renters.
     

Share This Page