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Blind leading the Blind?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CHAMPBOY, Jan 14, 2023.

  1. Jontro

    Jontro Member

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    it's like prime stevie franchfries, kyrie, rose, and wesbruke all had a 4 some and produced a ball-handling jesus baby. her offensive game is off the charts, super high scoring, while her butt defense is impossibru to go thru. but best of all, she loves committing flagrant fouls.
     
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  2. daywalker02

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    I get your sentiment however it wasn't my intention to downright compare their game.

    It happened that those players do play for the Rockets, OKC respectively.

    The trajectory for player development is not exactly linear.
    For every player there is a McGrady, a Tyreke Evans, a Rudy Gay (had a good 2nd resurgence) type.

    Those players had earlier and shorter primes.

    Jalen Green could average 29 ppg and suddenly have career threatening injuries or fall off completely all of a sudden.

    Not wishing upon him but it happens.

    These super young excuses don't really fly for an old observer of the NBA game like me.
     
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  3. Imanimal

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    Your thoughts are 100% correct! Those guys continuously defending the WORST RECORD IN NBA HISTORY are 100% total morons. They ARE the reason the franchise continues to suck, because in Houston there is no higher standard expected by most of the fans.
     
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  4. JayGoogle

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    The fact that player development is not linear works for other players not on the Rockets. Some people seem to not get this part.

    You guys are also assuming that guys like Paolo will continue to improve...or that Fox and Sabonis aren't as good as they will ever be. It feels like grass is greener syndrome, our guys will never get better meanwhile every other non-rocket prospect is going to. We shoulda drafted _____ and ______ and...I see it often on this forum.

    The point is and the point has always been is that you have no idea where Green will be when he's 24 years old...but its still not fair to compare him to someone that's been in the NBA 5 years. Players usually don't rip through the league at 20. Period. So he's not doing that, that does not mean he's a bust or can't still become an elite player.

    I mean I see it often on this forum. Fans have a grass is greener thing going on, I can't tell you how many people doubted Harden as he turned into an elite player here. We once had people thinking OJ Mayo was better. Paul George. People on this forum always do this. Now suddenly every other rebuilding team has a better young core than ours when none of those rebuilding teams have really done anything but notch like 3 more wins. Congrats..
     
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  5. daywalker02

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    You are stuck in this 'grass is greener, I have to contradict' way of thinking.

    If you think outside the box, it's basically just a model of managing pro sports teams where the investor/owner is not willing to spend/being 'lazy'.

    He is not willing to pay any veterans if he doesn't have to and trust in draft crops.

    It just takes a lot of longer if you also draft raw players without elite game fundamentals.

    It's a highly controversial way of managing the team, players, staff.

    The grass does not only look greener, it is also cut and not left out there to grow into obscurities.

    Tilman doesnt seem to understand what winning on the next level entails.
     
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    You got it all wrong, the motivation for us is not to cheer up the Magic, OKC or Banchero but for the Rockets to learn things that are useful on this journey of rebuilding.

    I can't say for other franchises, but this one got yes men and not enough critical thinking.

    And some guy just said to me ‘Our grass is as green as that of other teams, we just happen to be the worst team with some of the worst advanced stats.'
     
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  7. JayGoogle

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    Bro, that's definitely you projecting. You come out to contradict like 95% of my posts.

    What do we have to learn from OKC? Agian, their guy is a 5 year player, he better be playing well at this stage of his career. Comparing any of our young core to a 5 year 24 year old player is a mistake.

    Orlando, what is to be learned from them? They are still one of the worst teams in the NBA.

    If our young core hits their potential then Stone suddenly looks good but again yall are capping off the potential of our young players while hyping up the potential of others. It is definitely grass is greener.
     
  8. Deckard

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    I admire your optimism, @napalm06. However, even if every Clutchfan were to start their own thread about "the team being in a bad place," which a sane member couldn't argue with any honesty (in my opinion), it's asking the impossible. He is still going to be Tilman Fertitta and isn't going to magically transform himself into someone else, which would be required, in my humble opinion.

    I rarely start threads, believing that there is usually one already to cover almost every topic imaginable Rockets related, if one will only do a bit of digging. However, if your theory appears on the cusp of success, as a Rockets fan of very long standing, I'll start one if I must. That's highly unlikely, but I've been surprised before.

    Assuming Tilman doesn't sell the team, perhaps he'll eventually hand over control to Patrick, his son. From what I've heard, young Patrick Fertitta is intelligent, enthusiastic about the Rockets, generous, and open to new ideas. I seem to recall @Clutch saying good things about him. That might be the best outcome we can hope for, short of a positive change in ownership, in my opinion.

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