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Blazers/Grizzlies discuss trade including Outlaw/Conley

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ShadyMcGrady, Nov 28, 2008.

  1. Kwame

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    Battier for Outlaw...Get it done somehow Morey like u wanted to.
     
  2. Chamillionaire

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    Calderon is probably the 3rd or the 4th best point guard in the league now, he shoots lights out, doesn't turn the ball over... check the stats out for yourself.

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  3. smoove shoez

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    That would be nice.
     
  4. 1individual

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    I would take Battier for Alridge but not Outlaw. Hes the outcast.
     
  5. crash5179

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    If the Grizz are willing to trade Conley for Outlaw maybe they would consider taking back Battier and Francis for Conley.

    Trading Battier and Francis for Conley works according to RealGM.

    There is a reason Conley was the 4th pick in the draft last year and he is only 21. He could develope into a franchise point guard over the next couple of years leaving AB to continue coming off of the bench as a scorer. He could turn into the Grizz's version of Devon Harris who is playing like an all star after Dallas gave up on him too early.

    Houston absolutely needs another PG as was evidenced when Rafer was suspended for 2 games.

    Battier could provide Memphis the type of veteran leadeship and great defense that could help that team for the next several seasons. Plus it would be a great public relations move since Memphis loves Shane.

    By taking Steve they would have an emergancy Point Guard that may provide something tangible since he is supposidly finally healthy but comes off the books at the end of the year if he can not return to form.

    Houston would free up enough salery to resign Deke plus get their PG of the future.
     
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    No way, If he is not good enough to play for the Blazers, he is not good enough to play here...........
     
  7. Tom Bombadillo

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    Conley=Trash
    He would be inactive in 2 days.......Unless you want to send him down to the DLeague with Joey.....

    Battier is far too valuable to the Rockets.......
     
  8. AggieDentist

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    not saying that this evens the deal out, but Portland would also be getting Crittendon and Warrick, and getting rid of the disgruntled Sergio. Portland has so much raw, young talent that it sickens me.
     
  9. ShadyMcGrady

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    Come on. Really? Battier just got back, drew 3 charges on a weak ankle, and already we're throwing him under the bus for TRAVIS OUTLAW!?

    One suggestion was for MIKE CONLEY!?

    Wow. How far you have fallen, Battier.

    If we're going to trade someone like Battier, it can't be for a position we're already overflowed at (guard). We'd have to trade that someone for a backup center. Only way we trade for a PG is if we trade a PG of our own. Otherwise it gets way too to cluttered.
     
  10. crash5179

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    Would you trade Battier and Francis for a young Steve Nash or Devon Harris??

    Remember when everyone on this board thought Nash was trash and not in the same class as Francis? I sure no that there is a lot of people that thought Devon Harris was trash even last last year.

    Like I said earlier, Conley is only 21 and there is a reason that he was drafted with the 4th pick in the Draft. If you wait till the guy is an all star he becomes un attainalbe.
     
  11. opticon

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    Im not saying he is a good as Calderon right now. Given the right situation I think he can develop into a very good point guard. I have seen alot of flashes of very good play out of him. I think Roy is hindering his development a bit because he controls the ball so much. Im not trying knock Roy, he is a great player. I just think it will be a bit difficult to develop another play maker with him in the back court.
     
  12. ShadyMcGrady

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    The problem is you can't trade Battier and Francis for a young Nash. And there's no way Dallas would have traded Harris to us. I would do both those trades, but those are unrealistic.

    You know who is good and who will forsure be a stud? Derrick Rose. Conley has tons of potential, but you don't know (1) if and (2) when he'll get to that level. The whole point of the Battier trade in the first place was to get talent now, and Battier brings it. Since we are in a "win now" mode, we'd need to trade for a veteran PG who can run the show immediately. It's a tall order.
     
  13. Tom Bombadillo

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    Yes, but not for Mike Conley.

    With that logic, why don't we go after Darko? There is a reason he was picked above Carmelo! He is still sooooo young! Hey Kwame Brown is only 26!
    Lets trade Scola for Kwame Brown! There has to be a reason he was picked number 1!!!!Or how about Adam Morrison, He is like a young Larry that has not been tapped!!!!!!

    Point is, Mike Conley makes Luther Head look like Michael........
    He sucks on the Grizzlies. THE GRIZZLIES!
     
  14. crash5179

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    You miss the point.

    You would not have traded for Nash or Harris even if they were available because at that time they had proven nothing. You would have missed golden oppertunities. I'm guessing Dallas is pretty happy they traded for Nash back in the 90's and I'm pretty sure NJ is happy with their returns on Devon Harris up to this point.

    Derrick Rose is not on the Blocks.

    Becaue Conley is still a bit of a question mark is exactly what makes him affordable. This is exactly when you get your best deals. Sure Conley could turn into a bust, but if he turns into an all star (which certainly might happen) then he becomes out of reach.

    Like I said he is only 21 and there is a reason he was drafted with the 4th pick last season. I as I recall Adelman had pretty good success with another Memphis cast off point guard that turned out to be pretty good.
     
  15. A_3PO

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    Roy isn't hindering Sergio at all because he rarely sees the floor when Roy is playing. When Sergio is on the floor, 99% of the time he's the primary ball-handler. What's hindering him is not being able to shoot the ball, which has been the problem his whole NBA career. He's a decent passer and sees the floor OK, but he has no chance to be a starter (on a decent team) unless he stops being a bricklayer. Calderon has always been able to drill the open shot plus he can finish. Sergio will never be able to finish at the rim because he's small and doesn't have hops. Unless his shot gets fixed, his NBA future matches his present: A 15 mins/game backup.
     
  16. opticon

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    The games i have seen him play he was hitting open jumpers. But your right you have to look at the larger sample size and the numbers dont lie. I have a feeling that if he is given a chance like Beno Got in Sac when he got traded we sell alot more from him.
     
  17. A_3PO

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    Could be, you never know. Beno might be a good comparison.
     
  18. ShadyMcGrady

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    ...if that's what you meant by young Nash or Harris then isn't that backwards thinking?

    You can't trade Battier, who gives you proven talent, for a maybe in Conley. What if he turns out to be a bust? Even if he becomes a superstar, you can't trade Shane Battier for a MAYBE. We are trying to win now, and Battier's play supports that.

    I know Derrick Rose is not on the blocks but my point with him was that he is a bonafide star already in this league. That's someone you could aim for. Luther Head for Mike Conley? Sure. Shane Battier? No way.
     
  19. BruceHR

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    Portland need a PG, Blake is not a PG, now they use Roy as the PG and SG, so I can say they need a PG badly, but if they trade Outlaw for Conley, that may be a mistake, Webster is still out for he got injured.

    Grizzlies need a shooting player, and too many guards, I really hope Morey can trade with Grizzlies, use Head, last night Head proved his value, he is more promising leave Houston for somewhere else.. :D
     
  20. flamingdts

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    Too many guards in Portland, and young guards can't lead a championship team.

    What Portland needs is a veteran player, they should probably chuck a thing or two for a good solid veteran PG. A player like Nash will get them a ring in no time, but this is a long shot. Since Suns want to win now either before their time runs out.
     

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