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Blazers Edge: Why Kyle Lowry May Become a Blazer on Draft Night

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clips/Roxfan, Jun 18, 2012.

  1. Summer Song Giver

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    I really hope this happens.

    Dalembert / Drummond / Camby
    Scola / Donuts / Patterson
    Parson / Bud / Morris
    Martin / Lee
    Dragic / Teague with 16

    I like that a whole bunch.
     
  2. Mariachi ROCKET

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    Sounds good to me. We can do It!
     
  3. Nook

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    Cousins was a complete head case... His effort was questioned a number of times as well.
     
  4. DieHard Rocket

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    I think it's an extreme longshot that Dalembert, Camby, Scola, and Martin are all back next year. Say we draft Drummond, if nothing else we'll buyout 'Bert and re-sign Camby. One of either Scola or Patterson will likely be traded IMO to clear the glut. I could see Martin staying just because his value is so low right now.
     
  5. DaGreatest

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    substantiate ur allegations with credible facts, otherwise, gtfo

    only thing you got is, ''his effort was questioned..'' blah blah blah

    I can say the same thing about you, but its speculation and unfair criticism unless its backed with concrete details

    smh
     
  6. TEXNIFICENT

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    Drummond doesn't seem to love basketball, and it matters when you're making a big investment in a guy. Is he really going to work on his game if he doesn't love the sport? Its not money thing, its innate and I just don't see it. If Portland takes him, fine because it maybe the biggest risk in the draft.
     
  7. moonnumack

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    I'm afraid of the amount of time it may take to develop Drummond. Are we talking 2, 3, 4 years to get him to be a Top 3 center? Will he ever be a difference maker offensively?
    His bust potential seems so high, but that being said, we have very little to lose.
     
  8. Plowman

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    So many here appear to be against picking up Drummond, already labeling him a bust, or complaining that he'll take too long to develop. I'll tell you what. I think many of you just don't want to rebuild or know enough about him........taking a cue from Les.

    Again, you bring in Drummond and D- Mo and have these guys tutored by the best in the business.....CD, Kevin, Dream, etc.

    Let Lurch continue to instill his culture from the ground up.

    Forget about Howard, Gasol, etc......

    The margin of error in trying to achieve some short term window is huge and the downside risk is even bigger........mediocrity ad infinitum.

    The Rockets are STILL (after all this monkey business with Les) well positioned in front of the best draft in at least 15 years.

    Let Morey crank out the rebuild.
     
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  9. Convictedstupid

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    Please let this happen. Drummond is crazy athletic with great size. How often do you get a chance at that? Not often. More than likely he'll probably be a bust, but you have to risk it.

    I'm still not sure he makes it to 6 though.
     
  10. Furious Jam

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    Things to do:
    Trade Lowry, #14, and #16 to Portland for #5 and take Andre Drummond.
    Trade Drummond, Martin, Patterson, and Morris to Orlando for Dwight Howard.
    Waive Dalembert.
    Sign Deron Williams.
    Re-sign Dragic, Lee, and Camby.

    PG: Williams
    SG: Lee
    SF: Parsons
    PF: Scola
    C: Howard
    Bench: Dragic, Budinger, Motiejunas, Camby

    Win NBA Championship
     
  11. ivenovember

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    I've played NBA 2k12 franchise many times and Drummond becomes a star 95% of the time. We have to draft him.
     
  12. Plowman

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    I obviously disagree about him being a bust.

    That said, I DO agree that we'll need to move up higher to get him.....2 or 3.
     
  13. jtr

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    First shot and I hit gold - was not hard. Read his weaknesses

    http://www.nbadraft.net/players/demarcus-cousins

    Weaknesses: Cousins' lack of maturity and mental focus is evident in his negative body language and lack of composure ... He tends to lose his head, looking disinterested or frustrated if things don't go his way. Also does not appear receptive to coaching, tuning out his coaches when they attempt to give him advice on the bench ... The big question is whether it's merely a lack of maturity due to age or something deeper ... To his credit he made it through the entire season without any suspensions or ejections. However, there were a few times (flagrant fouls) where he may have deserved to be ... Free throw shooting, while showing solid form, goes through bouts of inconsistency due to lack of focus.(appears to decrease as games progress) ... Occasionally forces the issue when its not there, and tries things that are out of his range ... His lateral movement could be a liability when guarding more agile players that can put the ball on the floor ... He lacks explosiveness, sometimes looking like he has weights on his feet, which could hurt him offensively as well as when facing up against more versatile big men in the NBA ... Lack of great explosiveness also decreases his shot blocking to some extent ... Tends to not hustle back on defense and disappear when his head is not in it ... Weight could be an issue if he does not learn to become disciplined about diet and off court habits ... Will basketball be his primary focus, or living life in the fast lane that accompanies it?
     
  14. Nook

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    http://kentuckysportsupdates.blogspot.com/2009/11/lazy-demarcus-cousins-working-on-bad.html

    Here is a DIRECT quote from Cousins discussing being lazy.

    http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-02-14/sports/29963095_1_cousins-demarcus-cousins-kings-fans

    Here is another article....

    If you want more do a simple google search.... His own high school coach stated he was lazy as well, on television.

    why do you think he slid so far in the draft.

    Now do us all a favor and go **** yourself.
     
  15. Convictedstupid

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    I think 4-6 is where he will be picked. I think MKG and Beal go ahead of him. I don't believe the Charlotte/Robinson rumors, but if they're true, that's great because we might be able to get him at 5. I think 6 is probably pushing it a little, even though it makes more sense for Sacramento to take Barnes over Drummond position wise.
     
  16. jtr

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    Here are the weaknesses of Drummond. Cousins sounds much scarier than Drummond.

    Weaknesses: Drummond wasn't featured on the block that much as a freshman, and his post-game remains raw and unsure ... Hasn't mastered any go-to post moves, as the ones he converts are usually awkward and off-balance ... Haven't really seen a one-handed hook that most big men develop first, and seems to shoot with both hands on the ball all too often ... The majority of his points come from the creativity of others, instead making them happen himself ... If his playmakers are shut down, it's possible Drummond will disappear through stretches, or even games ... Only attempted 2.6 free throws per game, and shot an appalling 29% from the line... Not much range on jumper with a low release right in front of his face ... Maturity issues, level of commitment and the need for vast offensive development could be a cause for concern from GMs not looking to take a chance in the top 3-5 ...
     
  17. izeroi

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    Portland has #6, Kings have #5.
     
  18. Nook

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    As hard as it is to believe, it is possible that Drummond may slip to #6. Barnes is more polished, is very professional and has done well at the combine. I could see Sacramento taking him. For teams like Sacramento after losing for so long, it is very tempting to take the more polished player, especially with a player like Cousins already in the post.
     
  19. Amel

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    I'm ok with this deal

    I'll rather start from the get-go this year, than lose a few more years on a solid team with no future at all
     
  20. Convictedstupid

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    I agree. That makes the most sense. But on draft night, you just never know.
     

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