[Blasphemy] Is Clyde's Importance to the Rox Overstated due to his UH Roots?

Hakeem played for 18 seasons.
He won 2 championships.

look you can have the best chef in the world, but without the food, you got no restaurant.

 

There are so many things wrong with this post that I wouldn't know where to start, so I won't. Please tell us that you're on some kind of medication! (with all due respect)

 

you miss my point.

The Rockets won 2 championships with Dream. You are implying would have won at least 16 championships with him.

its impossible to win without great players along your best player. Look, we beat the Knicks in 7 games. we could have lost that series if the OTHER players besides dream didnt play well.

let me give you the bizzaro world NBA's not so greatest momments:

Marv Albert:
Hakeem doubled team, passes out to.. RAFER ALSTON..
for 3!!! NO! The Knicks win! The Knicks win!

 

I want to say this to Clyde:

You genuienly have more interest in exciement in the other teams and their players than you do the Rockets. it's a fact. your indifference to the Rockets you cannot hide. you are a phony Rocket fan. you don't really care about this team and whether they win or lose. so please, just ****ing quit! go dance with the stars. your love for barbosa and Nash and the Suns last night was pathetic. I mean saying why doesn't the rest of the league play their style and you don't understand that...that did it for me. now you are my enemy. I can see you Clyde, and Walton, sitting around consoling eachother because the rest of the terrible league does not play like the Phoenix Suns. Well the Sun's do not play Sun's basketball without Steve Nash so you two genuises are basically saying why don't the rest of the teams have Steve Nash as their point guard? and for that, yall should be shot, for being so ******* stupid. if not that, you Clyde, should definitly be fired for not knowing why the Rockets always stand up on the sidelines until their teammates make a shot. they've only been doing that all damn year! that should get you tossed right there. dude. you are done. sorry bill. never again.
it's gene and jim for now on, time lapse be damned.

 

the 'role players' turned out to be legendary gods themselves.
have you not witness the the god like powers of Robert Horry and Sam Cassell?
did the defense and clutch abilities of the thunderous Mario Elie not showed you that the team of the 90s was the team of the INFINITY!!!!!!

does a 37 year old PG take a franchise like the CLIPPERS to the playoffs not compare to Moses parting the sea???

What proof do you need? Dream was the head lion, but he was NOT VOLTRON WITHOUT HIS BROTHERS!! The Rockets defended the Universe from the Evil of the Jazz, Suns, Spurs, Magic, Knicks !

 

this is my proof! a 500 year old Will Smith clone dunking OVER Richard Hamilton in the NBA finals!



Not human! Not human!

 

you forgot the blazers whom clyde played for during the first run. see how it all comes around

 

Yeah no way we get the 2nd ring without Clyde, hated to part with OT but the current cast was struggling.

major error by not winding down clock in that last shot attempt so it would be the last shot in the game against the jazz in the 97 playoffs before stockton's 3

ill-fated coaching attempt at UH showing lack of long term commitment, and clearly coaching is not his forte

irritating as a broadcaster, less irritating then the beginning but doesn't have the Rox tinted exuberance like Murph. makes asinine comments sometimes like "I don't know why more teams don't use the Suns system"...because not everybody has a Nash, Marion, Stoudemire in their roster. oh well, if Cynthia Cooper can get a TV job, I guess Clyde deserves some of that silver spoon also

ps. shut up about your dancing with stars crap while gameplay is going on, Worrell was trying to get back to the game and you still were running your mouth about that crap

kinda weird that I have the same meh feeling about the 2 hometown heroes in Clemens and Drexler, yeah they were great, nice to have them as local heroes, but still think of them as douches personally. I just don't put them in the same upstanding hero status like Bagwell, Biggio, or Hakeem...although I've heard Hakeem can be a jerk sometimes.

 

Thought this was interesting:

"[Drexler] Chose to wear a Houston Rockets team jacket when announced as one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History, with whom he'd played only a year, rather than the jacket of the Portland Trailblazers, with whom he'd played the preceding 12 years."

As you can see from the quote, Clyde was bleeding Rocket Red after only being on the team for one year.

"The explosive Blazers went to the NBA Finals in 1990 and 1992 and reached the Western Conference Finals in 1991."

Not getting it done in Portland? Are you serious? Look at the man's stats and then look at the time period he made it to the finals in and the teams he faced to get there.

"The Houston trade reunited him with college teammate Olajuwon, and the two powered the Rockets from the sixth seed in the playoffs to the 1995 NBA Championship. In 35 regular season games with the Rockets that first season, Drexler averaged 21.4 ppg on .506 shooting with 7.0 rebounds. "

There is a reason that the Rockets are the only team to ever win an NBA finals from the SIXTH seed. That reason is Clyde the Glide Drexler.

His valued soared in the postseason. In that 22 playoff game run, he was the teams' second leading scorer behind Olajuwon with 20.5 ppg while also grabbing 7.0 rpg and dishing out 5.0 apg. In the Finals sweep over the Orlando Magic, his production even increased to 21.5 ppg, 9.5 rpg and 6.8 apg. In the conference finals, he and Olajuwon became the third set of teammates to score 40 points in a playoff game as Drexler hit for 41 in Game 4 against the Jazz.

I wish our current team had a roleplayer that could ride coattails and create this kind of output.

 

Good idea. Make it happen Les.

 

Its more about being a huge community figure in Houston than him actually playing for the Rockets. Say if Vince Young played with us for 1 year and we won a title, would we not retire his jersey? People cheered for him when he beat us in overtime this season and he's on the other team. This is obviously more about his other involvments with the city of Houston rather than his involments with the Rockets. The fact that he played a couple of years with us just gave us the excuse to retire his jersey.

I think he deserves it though. If you go by just what he did as a Rocket, thats not enough. But what he did off the court is more than enough reason for me to be alright with his jersey being retired here.

 

Very nice post. Glad you woke up!

 

Someone needs a laxative....

 

the hometown angle obviously plays a huge part in clyde's status as a houston rocket but don't let that fool you into thinking any less of him as a player. his number is retired because a) we don't win #2 without him, and b) he's one of the greatest swingmen of all time.

if barkley had won a championship here, don't doubt for a second that his number would be hanging up there also.

great player + championship = jersey retirement.

 

I don't think his importance to the '94-'95 team is really questionable, though if it was my decision I would not have retired his jersey.

I just poked through this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_retired_jersey_numbers and was not very surprised to see that other than one player I noticed, Clyde was the only player to have his number retired by a team on which the player was with the team for three and a half or less years and something tragic did not happen.

The other player was Michael Jordan. Washington retired his number after two seasons, which doesn't really bother me as he's also a controlling interest in the franchise. For some ridiculous reason Miami retired his number as well, which I don't get at all.

To me, term of service is a big part of retiring a former player's number, and I just don't feel that Clyde had the years to warrant it.

I don't consider him a franchise player as far as the Rockets are concerned, and don't really feel that he had a major impact on the Rockets organization past winning the championship on the whole.

When I think of franchise players for the Rockets, I think of Rudy T., Calvin Murphey, and Hakeem, with Yao and Tracey slowly getting there after they have a few more years with the club.