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Blame all 3, not 1

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by King901, Jan 3, 2009.

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  1. Convictedstupid

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    Clearly it wasnt.


    But he did more and gave more effort. Which is like what sooo many people in this thread have said, is more than tmac can say.
     
  2. ibm

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    seriously, are you mcgrady himself? lol.

    in his book, when we win, it's "it's all on me"; when we lose, it's "no one else can create his own shots" or "i didn't have enough shots".

    granted this is a team game and you win/lose as a team. but mcgrady sure is unique amongst all rockets right now, and hence the most rant on him. get that?
     
  3. King901

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    I respect that, as i mentioned, im not happy with his performances of late, but it's not his fault when we lose.
     
  4. Pringles

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    King...

    No one is blaming this one loss all on Tracy. We all know it's a team sports.

    Let me give you an example with other teams.

    If you remember the Knicks last season, the season before that, and so on... I feel like a Knicks fan right now. Remember the famous YouTube clip with Zach Randolph jacking up and airballing a 3? I feel the same way with Tracy. You did admit that he had no effort, and this is what makes me sad. We lost because of Tracy's lack of effort, Yao's weirdness of not taking advantage of Bargnani, and Artest's stupidity. But... it's not just the loss that saddens me. It is how Tracy played and what he said in the post interview.

    The game showed me Tracy is still a quitter. The post interview showed me Tracy hasn't mature since his Orlando days.
     
  5. Lancej281

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    So the Rockets have to expect to play 5 on 4 now? They have to win with McGrady doing nothing? That's the plan now?
     
  6. MD_in_Training

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    Nah, it can't be McGrady. Tracy would have given up a long time ago trying to defend himself.
     
  7. ibm

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    if mcgrady didn't play the way he did last night, and as a result we didn't play 4-on-5 most of the time, yao's production would likely have been different and the team might've been able to find ways to win or at least not get blown out (which is a disgrace).

    can't prove it, of course, as no one can turn back the clock. but it is a logical assessment, isn't it?
     
  8. King901

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    No one did enough to get the goal done. We were in the chat yesterday, yao scoredl ike 4 pts, someone said he was going to have 30 pts this game, i said thats the same thing i said during the bucks game.....Yao has had favorable matchups and still hasn't done anything. Tmac has been playing like he gets garbage minutes. Has he quit, no. Did he give a lack of effort, yes. He played in the mood the whole team had (excluding Wafer). They didnt care about the game either.
     
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    LOL :D
     
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    Maybe when teams know they don't have to guard McGrady anymore, it makes it easier to guard his teammates. Ever thought of that? I know Tracy hasn't.
     
  11. King901

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    No one on the team wanted to win last night in my eyes, so should i consider all of them quitters? If it's my opinion just likes it is yall opinion that he quit?
     
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    In the bucks game, they had to worry about mcgrady because he was on the three line, not 5 feet out.


    Like people have said....we were playing 4 on 5 when tmac was in last night.


    Going back to what youve said to me. Learn to read before you argue.
     
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    You really don't think he has quit? Fine. Let's just say he hasn't quit.

    But... the whole team was trying. Artest was trying as hard as he could... and he has torn ligaments. Of course... every time Artest forces something... I cringe.

    And if everyone plays in the same mood... you'd expect your MAIN leader to step up. I hate KG... but you won't see him do what Tracy do. You'll see him get up on everyone's face. Yall all saw Big Baby crying.

    I'm not advocating Tracy to be a biatch. I'm just wishing he could lead by work. Obviously, he can't lead with his mouth. So start leading with effort. Start leading with practicing hard. Start leading in the game!
     
  14. ibm

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    in my book, not giving effort = quit. so you're contradicting yourself there. in addition, if you're the highest paid athlete on a team and quit, that's even more unforgivable.
     
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    I could care less about losing, this is another beast entirely.....





    All I want to see is EFFORT, HEART, LEADERSHIP, INTEGRITY, PRIDE...

    I want to see the qualities that make up a "Rocket".


    If Tracy had 47 turnovers and shot 2/62, but played his ass off, It
    would be completely different.....


    This is not about our record, it is about our legacy....

    He is tarnishing all the aura of being a Rocket, and others before him put
    blood, sweat, and tears into developing that legacy...
     
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    Artest made what 3 3's hada few steals and 6 turnovers, he would steal the ball and then turn it over a few seconds later. That's not playing hard.
     
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    Apparently, he thinks quitting means Tracy has to physically walk out off the court and refuse to come back in.
     
  18. Tom Bombadillo

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    Yeah it is.



    Efficiency has ZERO to do with playing hard...
     
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    As you just said, "in your books". No one gave enough effort to get the job done so should that make them all quitters?
     
  20. ibm

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    can't take you seriously any more after this post.

    end of discussion.

    last word - you are mcgrady himself. least you have the same mentality of his.
     
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