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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by King901, Jan 3, 2009.

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  1. King901

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    Yao is right at the rim and his buckets wont fall? His 12 werent amazing. Yeah i expect Tmac to get atleast 20pts a game, if i know he isn't able to do it who is it supposed to be on? Yao and Artest along with the rest of the team knows Tmac isn't like he used to be. They know hhe is going through a bad poin tin his career. What they are supposed to do is STEP UP. You let me know which one of them besides Wafer has done that?
     
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    Translation: AntiSonic was right
     
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    apparently in Ron and Yao's recent case.
     
  4. King901

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    Thank you, as big as Yao is he shouldn't be afraid to dunk on anyone. Until he get's out of that soft play style, he will just be the same. Soft.
     
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    Sorry, yao hustled to get to the rim, tracy stopped 30 feet away.


    How can you blame it on other people when you get paid 20 million, and you have had 10 games where you have had less than 10 points, and youve only played about 23 of them?

    Bad point in his career? If I got paid that much and had tracy's skill, you better believe I would give more than 10 percent of hustle a game.

    He doesnt have to carry the team anymore, thats the beauty of it. But he has to atleast try.

    Hell, he can sit out and contribute! Thats zero touches that he has that are useless and run down the clock.
     
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    Yeah, because tmac isnt soft.


    Once again, YAO TRIED TO ATLEAST HELP THE TEAM.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Yao got triple covered because the other team saw Tmac standing 40 feet from the basket, they aren't stupid they can see he quit too.

    4 on 5 is imposible especially for a big man who needs space like Yao does.

    DD
     
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    Synergy, when the sum is greater than its parts.

    It can also work in reverse. There's a difference passing to Chuck Hayes everyone knowing his limitations but he's trying with a lion's ferocity.

    Compared to passing to a guy who takes the ball and just looks down at the ground, mind occupied with his angry wife not Tivo'ing his favorite TV shows anymore. And sulking about why he's even positioned on the court the way the he is, like how DARE you just cast me into this facilitator role. Especially when the other players know their role is to complement HIM.

    Yeah Adelman might not be putting the right specified parts in the vehicle. But its not his fault when the factory keeps giving him a defective alternator.
     
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    I rather have a guy on my team be soft, but give 100%, than a guy on my team be ridiculously talented, but not try.
    Effort is in a category all on its own in the world of sports. When an athlete sucks, he'll hear snickers and muffled talks of trades from the media and fans. But, when a player even hints at not trying, all hell breaks loose. Lack in effort is the cardinal sin in sports. There is absolutely nothing worse. Nothing.
     
  10. King901

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    So if he had 12 points like Yao, who would be the blame? Him still. Yao is at the rim because he is supposed to be. Tmac starts at the 3 and penatrates sometimes. I am not saying his lack of scoring is justified, but the blame shouldn't be on him. Last night we got blew out as a team. Tmac could have had 20 and we would have still lost.
     
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    Once again, If you say Tmac has quit/no heart/no effort/give up/ or whatever thrills you, THEN DONT EXPECT NOTHING FROM HIM. All you need to do is expect him to have 0 across the stat line.
     
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    Get it through your head. Fans don't care about his 4 pts. We care that he didn't try. If Yao just stood there all game, not contesting shots, and passing the ball out everytime he touched it without even posting up, then he will be flamed just as badly by the media and fans.
     
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    Incorrect.

    If Tmac had 20, then the other defender doubling yao, would have had to guard tracy. Leaving yao in a 1v1 position. Meaning points. Meaning we would have won.

    No. Tracy didnt try and didnt give a ****. Meaning his defender could go be useful, unlike the person he was supposed to defend. Meaning his defender could give guys trouble who were trying to play.
     
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    and once again, Yao completley failed! just forget that whole 'execution' thing. No reason a 7'6" center should be making all those easy dam layups and jump hooks 2-3 feet from the rim. :rolleyes:

    von wafer was the only one who decided to show up with energy, and execution last night. I don't care if it was garbage time, Wafer is the only one who gets a pass for last night.

    everyone else gets a big fat F for Fail.
     
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    Seriously, this is the most moronic reasoning I've ever seen. I've already addressed this point.
     
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    The thing is, the 1st unit really doesnt know what to play...
     
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    its a complete joke when we praise players for just trying and giving effort. Yes the entire team is playing poorly. BUT TRACY QUIT. how can you possibly defend that. Effort should be a given night in and night out! It shouldn't be a pleasant surprise when it is given. Blame the team and the coach for the loss, but blame Tracy for quitting and deserting the team in its' critical hour.
     
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    No one said Yao played well. Yao played like ****. But, the story of the day is Tmac's lack of EFFORT.
    Effort - it's the one thing that fans expect without EXCEPTION. You can suck, and fans will forgive you. You can rape a girl, and fans will forgive you. But, if you don't TRY, you will be ripped apart without mercy and no forgiveness is due.
     
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    you make a general point, and its a valid one. It is a team game.

    I can only assume that this means that you would never single a player out no matter how bad he is doing because if t-mac's actions of late aren't enough for you to do so, then I cant imagine much more else that would. fine, I can understand that.

    I disagree with the philosophy and think one player can negatively impact the team to its detriment, and that is exactly what t-mac is doing.
     
  20. The Joker

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    And yes, this is ridiculous to say. we as fans should EXPECT 100 percent hustle from the entire team. Once that expectation has gone, as is the case with Tracy, we expect the coach and management to handle the situation. Sent Tracy home.
     
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