Blake Griffin should be suspended for being unprofessional.

Technically, the majority of players fall to sale the hit. Scola was braced, if you think a hard bump would knock him down think again.

Let the players in the pain get physical and set the standard. That way guards will think twice before going in. Treat all positions the same.

So screw that, Scola was braced. Stop trying to sale hits and play physical back if the refs are letting it.

Scola is a big dude, it would take more then Griffen backing down against a braced Scola.

 

The fouls go to the aggressor and Blake forced the call while all Scola could do was flop. Notice how Scola then forced his way to the rim on the other end and got said calls.

 

Bull****. Hard to not fall on the floor when you've got Blake Griffin driving his shoulder into your torso repeatedly.

 

Beat LA.

 

I don't know which stands out as the most flagrant offense to reason:

1. The OP overreacting to the play.
2. The guy blinded by an agenda against Scola who can't tell the difference between backing down and shouldering down a defender.
3. The pot calling a kettle black whining about the team losing a close game failing to acknowledge the still immaculate record we've got this year (6-2) in such situations.

 

I watch the NBA all the time. There are no offensive fouls being called for solid man defense. A majority of offensive fouls are by weak side defenders sliding over almost universally at the last minute, or by random defenders on fast breaks. Getting an offensive foul called for straight up playing solid man defense doesn't ever happen, really, and almost never happens without the defender strongly selling such foul with a "flop".

I would be okay with no-calls, but I think that would have to go both ways.... as it did historically with Shaq, for example. He didn't get called for charges. But then, refs could have called a foul on his defender every time.

I'm just for winning. Flopping works. Not all the time, but a lot of the time. Moreover, it's necessary, as you will otherwise often be bulled over. It's not against the rules. And other teams and players do it.

It's folly to think that players not flopping are doing so out of some respect for the game. Players who don't flop are not flopping generally because they aren't putting that much effort into defense, and aren't trying to give up their bodies as frequently. They're usually not playing any better defense. Kevin Martin doesn't flop. It's not because of his stellar defense. I'd argue he should flop more. He certainly isn't the best defender.

That said, there are some defenders who don't flop and play great defense. But I'd still argue in select circumstances, they'd be better off flopping, too.

 

I usually enjoy & agree with your posts; but that comment is so far from what happened that it drops into the abyss. Scola was leanning into him & Griffin pushed into Scola twice. After the 2nd time; Griffin took a step back, lowered his shoulder and charged into & thru Scola. It's kindda hard to flop back, when you're leanning forward.

It's plays like this that leads to flopping. The best way to clean up flopping is for the refs to start calling the fouls that occur.

I don't think Griffin falling on Scola warrents anything, but him lowering his shoulder & charging into Scola does.

 

Griffin did more than just back down Scola. He took a step back, lowered his shoulder & jumped thru Scola. In a goal line stand, the rule is the lower line wins the battle & that's what Griffin did. However in basketball, that's supposed to be an offensive foul.

 

I hate the LA Floppers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbDQII7PhW0

Disgusting.

 

Yeah, if anyone should have been tossed, it was the ref. Griffin should have been called for a foul. I'm glad he ticked off Luis, though. He had a good night. Clearly, he was getting into Griffin's head. Scola played some excellent defense on him. I was surprised, and I'm a big fan.

 

That was a correct statement. If Scola would play smart defense he wouldn't end up in situations like that. In that case, he should have done the old "pull the chair out from under him" move. Scola just doesn't play good defense. He really shouldn't have been in at that time anyway. That should have been Patterson on the floor.

 

Exactly, I wonder sometimes if people actually watch the games or pay attention when the game is on.

If you don't like Scola that's your right but to make up statements and saying that Griffin didn't lower his shoulder and and jump thru Scola is ridiculous. It was an offensive foul there is no doubt about it and Scola was playing tough defense on that play.

 

Sometimes, I wonder which game you were watching. Scola played some of the best defense he's played all year on Griffin last night. He frustrated the hell out of him. Griffin should have been chewing him up, and spitting him out, and he simply couldn't do it.

 

Perfect play to pull out the chair from under him for a traveling call.

 

Sorry Deck, i love Scola just as much as the next Clutchfan, but Scola was getting done up all night last night. Not just by Griffin, but Jordan as well. Just because i like a player doesn't mean that i am going to excuse his negatives. Scola and Martins lack of defense was our downfall last few games and it shows when they are not on the floor. The team is better defensively all around. The current(but not permanent) solution is to not have them both in the starting line-up.

 

It would have been perfect for that play. Griffin was loading up on every bump.

 

Yep. Defense has a lot to do with learning and watching video and even Keyon Martin does this. Scola is old enough that I'm surprised he hasn't refined his finesse defensive game. Many are mad at the foul but they need to understand that as a defender you get a reputation just as much as you do as a scorer.

If you cry wolf enough times you won't hear a whistle from the ref.

 

So you talking about playing like they did back in the 60's, 70's and early 80's..

Like Elvin Hayes once said, there is no way a little guy was just going to drive into the lane without paying for it...

T_Man

 

I should have had more tact than just saying it was a stupid comment but the statement was incorrect. Scola did not fall to the ground on that play he was knocked to the ground, offensive foul.

 

I agree. It was an offensive foul. I really don't blame Scola. I blame the coaches for putting him in a situation like that.