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Blacks Commit The Most Murders, Police Shoot More Whites

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Jul 5, 2022.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Yes bur that's another issue of Blacks having to solve the problem. The government encourages and supports home ownership probably too much as you end up with sub prime mortgage collapses bu I digress
     
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    Have you noticed @pgabriel that the cat seems to have everyone’s tongue around here as of late

    - K-Dog
     
  3. tinman

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    It’s a complex issue
    You can be ultra wealthy like Delonte West and go homeless due to drugs and alcohol
     
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    It’s so simple all we have to do is show love towards one another each and every day
     
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    And don't forget respect....

    Something so damn simple, yet so hard for many too do...

    T_Man
     
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    I show love to all the real Rockets fans all the time and wish doom for fake Rockets fans
     
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    You’re right, my bad
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Just a quick check in to say that there are more cell phones than people in Guatemala....

    Carry on
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Practice what you preach
     
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    You are correct when looking at raw numbers. The better measure is the rate.

    Shot to death by police 2020:
    White - 459
    Black - 243
    Hispanic - 171
    Other - 27
    Unknown - 120
    Total: 1020​

    2020 Population ~300M
    White - 59.7%, 180M
    Black - 12.6%, 38M
    Hispanic - 18.6%, 56M​


    Rate:
    Hispanic 1.2x shot to death by police than White
    Black 2.1x shot to death by police than Hispanic
    Black 2.5x shot to death by police than White​

    The even better measure is justified vs not justified shooting by police. And not by the court (the law is skewed toward protecting police). It's hard to come up with this number and we only a get glimpse of it through media and public reporting.

    At the end of the day, every single unjustified shooting by police is a tragedy that should be prevented. Shooting someone with a mental illness to death is unjustified. Shooting someone that ran away is unjustified. Shooting someone unarmed (w/o a gun) is unjustified. Shooting someone that threatened you with a knife is unjustified.
     
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    I'm posting this here rather than start a new thread as there is still a lot of questions about this. Yesterday just a few blocks from me a 20 year old black man was killed by MPD after a 6 hour standoff. So far havent seen or heard any protests over this.
    https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news...th-minneapolis-police-in-seward-neighborhood/
    Police shoot, kill man after 6-hour standoff at Minneapolis apartment building

    Investigators say two police officers fired their weapons at the close of an hours-long standoff that resulted in the death of 20-year-old Andrew Tekle Sundberg early Thursday morning in Minneapolis.

    According to the Minneapolis Police Department, officers responded to a third-floor apartment on the 900 block of 21st Avenue South around 9:30 p.m. Wednesday after a woman with two children said someone had shot into her unit.

    Officers arriving at the scene heard more shots being fired and began evacuating the building after seeing debris exploding from the walls.

    Police said they tried to communicate with Sundberg for nearly six hours and attempted to reach him via phone call, voicemail, text and video message, along with bringing his parents to the scene to help.

    A man who lives on the floor and asked 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS to not reveal his identity said he tried to help the woman and calm her kids after police got them to safety.

    “Every three to five minutes they announce, ‘Hey, we want to talk to you,'” the neighbor said of police. “They even brought in his family involved … they tried to talk to him … they did every precaution necessary.”

    Eventually, police shot Sundberg at around 4:30 a.m. Officials say Sundberg was taken to a nearby hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

    “Let me be very clear, this is not the outcome we hoped for or desired,” said Minneapolis Public Information Officer Garrett Parten.

    Police have released little information on what led to the shooting, other than negotiations had been ongoing, and officers had asked Sundberg to leave his apartment with his hands raised.

    However, a video sent to 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS from a viewer shows the final moments before the shooting.

    A man can be seen climbing out of his apartment window and standing on the sill while on his phone. Law enforcement can then be seen in the stairwell, and the man also climbs back in the window at one point.

    No other injuries were reported at the scene, but residents who live nearby were still scared.

    “We live next door to the house, so we were just hoping like we don’t hear no gun shots because we got kids in the house. We don’t want bullets to fly through windows if it hit us – we were just laying low, hoping everything would be fine,” said neighbor Hazy Jeylani.

    MPD turned the case over to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, as is customary when law enforcement officers use deadly force.

    The City of Minneapolis released a heavily redacted incident report Thursday evening that listed Sundberg as “Subject #1” in the case. The data release also disclosed the names of the two Minneapolis police officers who fired their rifles: Aaron Pearson and Zachary Seraphine.

    It wasn’t immediately clear if both officers’ shots struck Sundberg.

    BCA records show both Pearson and Seraphine were at the Bolero Flats apartment building in downtown Minneapolis as part of the SWAT team on the day Amir Locke was killed back in February.

    During the no-knock raid, Pearson is shown on body camera video opening the door into the apartment where Locke was shot. Seraphine entered a separate apartment that morning and later helped treat Locke at the scene.

    Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey released a statement Thursday afternoon pledging transparency during the investigation.

    “This is not the outcome anyone wanted. Any loss of life is tragic, and my deepest condolences go out to the family of the individual involved. I also want to express my gratitude to the City staff, including MPD officers and crisis negotiators, who worked diligently throughout the night alongside the individual’s family members. All were working together to try and reach a peaceful resolution amid dangerous circumstances while keeping nearby residents safe.

    “The City will continue working to share as much information as possible in these early hours and has turned the investigation over to the BCA.”

    Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey




     
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    Apparently not cooperating with the police is the wrong lesson from the Flolyd verdict
     
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    Apparently there was a small protest outside Tekle Sundberg's apartment building as I saw some people with signs. At the moment there's still no real good answers about why LEO snipers shot him then after long negotiations and the community seems divided on it. While a lot of people are critical of LEO some neighbors have spoken up that Sundberg was shooting earlier in the evening and was a threat.
     
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    Mah baby dint du nuffin. He wuz a good boi.

     
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    This lady did the right thing to call the cops if that dude shot up her place and almost killed her kids
     
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    that one's hard to watch
     
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    That is a few blocks away from me. I'm far enough away though to not hear the protests or to have heard the standoff.

    As I said the community does appear divided on this and there is still a lot of lingering distrust on the MPD from George Floyd and other incidences.
     
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