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Black professor sucker punches white woman in face over debate about race

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    A professor who is racist might indeed be a problem. I agree. In his case the problem could indeed go beyond this one incident. And it doesn't matter what race the professor is.
     
  2. T-man

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    Yet people get arrested for it and prosecuted every day. It is called disorderly conduct. You can actually file it under several different charges, but this and Pi are usually the way to go. And yes you can get a PI the second you step out your front door unless your yard is gated and all gates are locked. Do you remember Mcconahey or however you spell it getting arrested in his own house? Inside his house, not outside for pretty much the same thing. He was naked, but in his house. He was arrested for mouthing off. then he resisted to add more charges. There is an example for all that keep asking for one.
     
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    Again, this completely ignores the role of power dynamics in the history of racism. A black guy gets upset and punches a white woman. The wrong he committed was punching somebody, not leveraging his black privilege to justify an act of violence.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    That isn't what I typed or implied.

    I said that racism is wrong no matter what. It can be hurtful on a personal level. Burt in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter to most folks if the racism comes from blacks against whites, because it can't do the same kind of harm on a larger scale.

    I never said it was OK for any race to be racist.
     
  5. T-man

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    Wow, to listen to the debate and go from one extreme to the other is commendable. I agree with your post 100% about it not mattering what the race is. I would rep you if I knew how.
     
  6. Al Calavicci

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    Look to the right when you post. Look at the faces. Look at the word, above the faces.

    :rolleyes:

    SMILIEY FACE :eek:
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree it the power dynamics are different but at the same time though is not racism a biased judgement based on race? The problem with your argument is that it does lead to saying that because one side has all the power while the other doesn't the weaker side isn't at fault even if their reasoning was based as much on race as the other.

    I understand that context is important but I don't think you can say that the power structure context overrides the principle that "racism" has to do with race no matter who does it.

    If I shoot a white person and cite the historical discrimination of Chinese railroad workers and the Exclusion acts would that no longer be a racist act?
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Disorderly conduct is a judgement call. The prosecutor clearly made a judgement call that Dr. Gates wasn't disorderly. Subjectively maybe he could've decide otherwise but there was nothing in this case to say that that definatively is disorderly conduct.

    Anyway that still doesn't address that mouthing off is a crime. If it was that would clearly violate the First Amendment. I don't know the case you mention but I would suspect there was more to it than just mouthing off.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    It definitely matters to the people involved.

    It is always wrong for a person of any race to be racist to a person of another race.

    However, it isn't as serious of a problem, because the reality is the whites in this society aren't oppressed, have never been oppressed and aren't in any danger of being oppressed. Whites aren't followed around stores by owners or employees because of their race, they aren't pulled over because of their race, etc.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I just noticed this in your post. You write "PI" by which I suspect you mean "Public Intoxication". Was Dr. Gates intoxicated?
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes I agree it doesn't matter as much society wide except that it doesn't help racial reconciliation. There still is the principle though of it being a racist act which I don't think should be lightly dismissed.
     
  12. Rumblemintz

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    ..and yet it lives on and on because people feel the need to perpetuate it. Does it make you feel cooler to do so. Do you fit 'in' with the 'Whoa is Me' crowd??

    The original post started as reporting a news story. You guys blew it up into a race thing. Quite predictably, I might add. One day, and it may be far off, there will be no more racisim (at least I hope), but I wonder how many of you will even realize it.

    You'll accomplish way more working together than you will working against each other.
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    If he really wanted out he could say he was gay.
     
  14. Rumblemintz

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    ...or Muslim?

    Ooops.....I've stepped in it now.
     
  15. ima_drummer2k

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    Agreed.

    I can't figure out why the OP is getting roasted for starting this thread. D&D stands for Debate and Discussion.
     
  16. RocketRaccoon

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    Presentation, presentation, presentation.

    Oh, and a little reputation.
     
  17. Rumblemintz

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    Basso always gets ripped. I think he loves it. He's the Anti-Glynch.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    because people on here are not open minded and pull their typical knee-jerk reactions to anything a conservative posts. It's a very immature response, but its the liberal mob rule we live under around these parts.
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    Ok. What's there to discuss?

    As I said before, the only thing debate/discussion worthy in the OP was " :rolleyes:".

    Which is a pretty lame topic, if you ask me.
     
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