Title of the article: "Black immigrants collect most degrees But affirmative action is losing direction"
I'm not referring to the article. In fact I didn't read it. I read your post, which is why I quoted to it and was responding to it. The implication was that it was ludicrous for anybody to consider dark skinned dominicans as anything but african americans/blacks. Most african americans/blacks and dark skinned dominicans would disagree. I take it you finally understand this point by now?
This paragraph sums up your argument quite well, I think. First of all, I think you should consider that you really have no idea whether discrimination is "just not that bad." But to your broader point, that African Americans have themselves to blame for their ongoing struggles, I think you're missing the point (to a point ). When you think of common afflictions that are currently keeping the black man down, you think of lack of education, high rates of single parenting, general poverty, and high rates of incarceration (among other things). Just on the issue of prisons, you have inflated fear of crime, which in this country carries connotations of the "black rapist" steotype. That fear leads to harsher sentencing (especially in Texas, where we elect our judges) and "hardline" legilsating. All of that disproportionately affects African Americans for a number of reasons (racial profiling, for example). It also doesn't really matter whether or not white people are uniting under a racist agenda because these types of discrimination are very strongly entrenched in many societal institutions. The hope of affirmative action was to erase some of that institutional bias against African Americans, and it worked to an extent. Faced with the issue of African immigration, I'd say that the system should probobly be reformed with an eye towards finishing what we started.
Nice to know that you didn't actually read the original post. I kind of see your purpose now. You are obssessed with me and are just stalking me. Believe, I ain't that hot. I will never understand your point. The author and me are both ludicrous I guess - even though I disagree with the author's point.
No, not really. If I was stalking you, I'd be outside your house wearing a black ski mask. I'm just responding to a post that you made on the internet, where you expressed a view that was quite ill-founded, for reasons stated. Sigh, then I guess we will have to go forward with the experiment I proposed. I guarantee you will understand after that.
So do you just look for post written by "langal" and disregard the actual point of the thread? I didn't know I had such an influence on you.
well is any hard working person held back by the color of their skin like in the past? yes acts of discrimination happen and there are glass ceilings but if a person of color stays out of trouble and works hard like any other good member of society then i am pretty sure they will be able to succeed. yes there will be struggles to develop in areas where minorities lack the networking and access that whites have controlled, but many of those barriers are breaking down. we've certainly started to see that. i don't like the bush admin but you have to agree that he has put minorities in positions of power (as long as they agree with him). also, we have started to see minorities start to take a greater percentage of coaching jobs in sports. i guess we can also look at how america really doesn't care about obama's skin tone, but more about his muslim religious background in his family. maybe things are that bad and no hard working minorities can advance and take political power in america. i just don't see it. First of all...I am not blaming american blacks for the difficulties today. I understand and agree that many societal problems can be directly traced back to slavery and segregation. I am stating that african-american studies pays little attention to problems within today's american black culture and instead focuses almost solely on the entrenched racism holding black people back argument. also, the field treats being black as if it is the worst thing you can deal with in america as if there aren't any other groups of people that deal with terrible stuff from day to day because of how they are. their is a focus on being the victim within the field and i just don't like it. if you think of yourself as a victim then you probably will be a victim. second, what are you talking about with the black rapist stereotype? if you are a rapist then you should be punished pretty hard in the first place. and yes there is bias in the court system, but at the same time if people aren't committing crimes then they won't be in the court system. Ok so what would you like to do? Since the black African immigrants are doing too well in America because of affirmative action then it can't just be based on skin color. Should we reform affirmative action so it only benefits Americans who's ancestors were enslaved? Do we need to document that their ancestors were enslaved? Seriously, how would you change it?
Black is a race. So Darker skinned DR players are of African descent by race and Dominican by nationality. And honestly, in America it doesn't matter where they come from, black is black. If you look like you're black and you're of African descent then you are black.
Family structure does not occur in a vacuum. I'm not sure where your parents immigrated from. Often times (IMHO and this may be wrong), but you see the grand children of hard working Mexican working class immigrants not turn out as well as their parents as they get beaten down by racism and the relative poverty of the neighborhood their parents live in. It is sort of like the immigrant "oomph" gets beaten out after a generation or two if you don't make it to the educated, highly skilled or entrepenurial middle class. This may even be true for uneducated Asians, who after all have their own gangs and other problems.
So you do not think family structure and having parents who work hard to support you is helpful to a person's upbringing and education? Obviously even with the best support, there will always be direlects in every culture, but I think it would be unwise to dismiss family structure as being just as and even more important than economic conditions.