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Black Harvard Professor arrested after breaking into his own home?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BetterThanEver, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. Faos

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    Weren't there other officers with him? Or did they all arrive after the incident?
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't know if initially there were but on the transcript Officer Crowley calls for backup.
     
  3. giddyup

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    Let's not overlook the thread title: the man broke into his own house....

    Only he knew it was his house. The neighbor who called it in didn't identify a race, she just saw the apparently illegal entry underway and that is what the police responded to.

    A guilty man would have tired to convince the cops that nothing was improper, just as Gates tried to do in a hissy-fit kind of way.
     
  4. vlaurelio

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    Any OP can put anything in the thread title but it doesn't mean they're factual. Just look at Basso's threads.

    A guilty man would have not been able to show any ID and prove that he lived there and would run at the first sight of the police and possibly hurt the cop in the process.

    Gates acted that way because deep down he know he's innocent. Are you saying he should have been charged for breaking into his own home :eek:
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Protesting one's innocence is a sign of being guilty? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

    Anyway that is irrelevant as vlaurilo pointed out Dr. Gates showed ID when it was demanded of him.
     
  6. giddyup

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    A break-in is a break-in: some are legal, some are not.

    People make fake IDs all the time.

    Throwing a hissy-fit helps no one and nothing. Try it next time you are falsely accused of something.

    Gates was not arrested until he followed the cops outside and kept up the confrontation. Wasn't he outside on the sidewalk when he was actually arrested?
     
  7. giddyup

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    I don't think it is a sign of being guilty but it is an attitude which doesn't further your case. Let's not forget that Dr. Gates' own neighbor called this in. Guilty people protest innocense all the time...

    Why did Gates follow the cops out onto the "street" and keep up the haranguing?
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    the person only needs to prove that he's the owner

    Really? Perps can lie and act calm all the time too. Perps can also pretend to be cops too. Are you saying cops should start bringing lie detectors and finger print readers or start taking DNA samples? :eek:

    so you want poeple who are falsely accused to just accept their fate? :eek:

    Don't you see the picture? he was handcuffed on his porch just outside his front door.

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  9. MFW

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    How so? Gate's 40 years of alleged "mistreatments" is relevant in codifying laws and, but it is totally irrelvant in this case, the case of Gates Jr vs. Crowley. In a court of law it is completely irrelevant that Gates may/may not have been profiled in the past (except to maybe establish character) so long as James Crowley did not profile him. This is a matter of Gates and Crowley only, it doesn't reflect society in general, its ills and everything. No generalization has been made except by Gates. Ogletree and Obama.

    But if we were to generalize, has it occurred to you that Gates/Obama isn't doing you any favours. In fact, Gates' and Obama's actions is a slap on the face of people (especially black men) who have real grievances with racism. The next incidents like this happen (especially serious in a the case of a real racially profiling powertrip cop), people may say "this is another Henry Louis Gates Jr" incident.

    Don't be surprise real racist ass-wipes use it to their advantage...
     
  10. vlaurelio

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    I believe the cop wasn't racially motivated but I think he was power/ego tripping himself.
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    Which I would suggest is the root of 99% of the problems that citizens have with police officers.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    And so do innocent people which is the case here. I don't get your logic. You are saying that if someone vociferously protest their innocence then that must mean they are guilty? :confused:

    That has nothing to do with guilt or innocence.
     
  13. meh

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    But isn't that what MFW is getting at? If anything, what Gates did was even worse. Not only did he not bring up the real matter at hand(police ego and lack of communication with citizens), he instead brought up the issue that didn't exist, racism. So in essence, he covered up the real problem with a fake, non-existent one.

    Gates could've used his influence in the political world to bring about better police-citizen relationship. But instead he only antagonized the entire police force.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    I mean yeah it looks like there was no racism in this instance but there possibly was police possible power/ego tripping which needed to be pointed out

    I mean in the end, he was arrested in his his own porch. Then the charges were dropped a day after. So something unusual went down.
     
  15. giddyup

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    It has everything to do with why he was arrested. He wasn't arrested on the B&E was he? So why was he arrested?
     
  16. Major

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    Because a cop went on a power trip after being yelled at?
     
  17. vlaurelio

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    what charge are you pertaining to down here?

     
  18. giddyup

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    A sense of humor goes a long way in this world. If I was wrongly accused of something that is easy to prove, given some time, I'd just go with the flow and have a laugh about it. You see where his response got him.

    What are the facts about his arrest? I had heard that he was arrested outside his home rather than inside of it. This pictures shows him on his porch in cuffs... somewhere between the two places.
     
  19. giddyup

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    Is that just your opinion or do you have something more substantive?
     
  20. giddyup

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    Breaking and Entering. Gates obviously knows he's not guilty; why not just let the cops catch up? No one they arrest is ever guilty...
     

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