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Black Harvard Professor arrested after breaking into his own home?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BetterThanEver, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. ItsMyFault

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    These ******* racist pilgrims in Massachussetts... what the hell are we going to do about them? :(


    Fools think they started this country......
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    Gates' PBS special a few years back...

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  3. Lil Pun

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    I like peanut butter but I don't like cheese.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    lol you lose

    You've been broken, brah

    Shamed and lost the argument, so you simply start slinging insults
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Not a bad guy? This guy was the Mother Theresa of cops man. He was the cop who taught other cops HOW NOT TO RACIALLY PROFILE!

    And gates took him for a racist. A guy who tried to save Reggie Lewis's life by mouth to mouth resuscitation.

    Every cop is saying Gates acted correctly - both black and white cops - and that Gates should ahve been arrested.

    We do not know what words were exchanged or what was done.

    Gates said he tried to giv ehim his badge number but Gates was shouting hysterically and kept interupting the cop.
     
  6. durvasa

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    You keep referring to the cop as Gates in this post. A bit confusing.

    Gates came home from a long trip, he lost his house keys, and under those circumstances I can understand him losing his cool when confronted by a police officer questioning whether he owns the house. Doesn't mean he was right to do so, but I get why that would happen.

    The cop, supposedly an expert on racial profiling and the sensitivity of the issue, should have understood the situation and been more accommodating to a citizen who did nothing but lose his temper in his own house.
     
  7. rhino17

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    so because gates was having a bad day, the cop should have just let him go? BS. No normal person goes off like that on a cop who was clearly just doing his job.
     
  8. B-Bob

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    Thank you! I was going to post there that Gates is blind but I was hoping the reference was plain enough. What a freaking film.
     
  9. wakkoman

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    Not justifying either party's actions, but people are forgetting a cop naturally is going to be alert and more defensive going into a potential burglary situation.
     
  10. VanityHalfBlack

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    The police acted stupidly...
     
  11. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    What an a-hole. Seriously, now I don't blame the cops for arresting him. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. FranchiseBlade

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    A person in their home who feels they are being humiliated and has had a history with unfair racial profiling by police(which Gates has been the victim of in his past) and has worked hard to achieve all that he has achieved might go off on a cop like that.

    It doesn't make it right, but it also doesn't deserve an arrest. On the Police report officer Crowley says that he was lead to believe that it was Gates' home. At that point he should have just left the home, and all of Gates' hysterical rantings behind. Then it's the end of the story.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Right, because Gates was mistaken about the cop targeting him because of his race isn't a reason for Gates to be arrested.

    We do have an idea of what was done and said because we have both Crowley's and GAtes' version of the story. In neither of those versions do I see anything that justifies Gates' arrest. Furthermore if the police had left once it was determined that it was Gates' home we wouldn't even be talking about it today.
     
  14. bigtexxx

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    lol you're grasping at straws. Face it, Obama acted very un-presidential here and is getting properly called out for it.

    Dear Barack, you're the president, not a community agitator.
     
  15. Ottomaton

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    Except it isn't, so he did.

    Entrapment is trying to make someone do something they wouldn't do otherwise. To be entrapment he would have had to walk Gates out onto his porch and gotten one of the other officers to cajole Gates into going off on the officer.

    See the concept of the bait car which is perfectly legal. Simply giving people an opportunity to violate the law isn't entrapment.
     
  16. langal

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    The other police officers who were there said that Crowley acted correctly.

    Since this is a race issue, does it matter that a black cop who was at the scene (unlike anyone else here) agreed? Or that the American President, Barack Obama came out and retracted his words and said that Crowley was an "outstanding police officer and a good man".

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-ap-us-harvard-scholar-arresting-officer,0,4731766.story

    Like I said earlier, it was most likely a mistake on the professor's part, all charges were dropped - so lesson learned. A good guy who was caught in a bad situation and acted badly. Happens to a lot of us at sometime or the other.

    Some people here (not you Franchise :) ) like vlauerio are already throwing out KKK and lynching references. I suppose those ppl should also make Uncle Tom references about Obama and the black cop who was there - since those 2 basically condone the cop's actions.
     
  17. ItsMyFault

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    Bill Clinton would have said the same thing.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    I doubt it. Clinton was a slick MoFo. plus he loved cops.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    I think race was only a minor factor here and not even necessarily on Crowley's part. Mainly just as a factor on the whole thing. I don't doubt that Crowley's partners would say he did the right thing. Why would they snitch for something so minor?

    But if the idea is to first deal with a possible break in, and then diffuse any situation that might get out of hand there was a better way to deal with it.

    I think everything was going well until after the police stayed around once the first and most important issue(the possible burglary) was taken care of. The situation would have been diffused and quieted had the police just left at that point.

    So obviously it was the better option. I understand that hindsight is 20/20, but some people aren't even using their hindsight and believing that the elderly Harvard professor deserved to be arrested.
     
  20. WhoMikeJames

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    I'm late to this whole discussion, but Obama's remarks are definitely going to set back race relations a bit. Sigh.
     

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