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Black Friday 2009

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  1. ItsMyFault

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  2. Dr of Dunk

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    That is the BB one. They have another one?
     
  3. ItsMyFault

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    Sorry, I misspoke.. I meant to say I saw the Wal-Mart one.. which is this one...

    http://www.black-friday.net/walmart-ad-scan.html

    I was saying though, both the Wal-Mart and the BB one don't really impress me in terms of them being deals, I mean I see those deals often on Slickdeals.
     
  4. Dr of Dunk

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    Apparently some BF deals are online now... and some are actually cheaper than their BF deal counterparts. Keep an eye on the following page :

    http://bfads.net/Online-Deals/Page1
     
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    Looking for an Ipod classic for less than $250 bucks...
     
  6. A00man

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    If anybody wants the Wal-Mart PS3 deal early ($299 for 120GB PS3 Slim, Infamous, Batman: Arkham Asylum, and The Dark Knight Blu-Ray) let me know.

    Apparently I found a seller on Craigslist that was selling the exact bundle.
    http://houston.craigslist.org/vgm/1468506947.html

    I contacted her, and met her up to get the bundle. Sure enough, somehow she has a couple of these bundles available. I got it for 300 without standing in the crazy BF lines, and saved on the tax. It was brand new, and everything is working perfectly and I have the 2 games and blu-ray as well. Sold the games (as I've already played both) on EBay, and made around 90 back. I will trade in The Dark Knight for District 9 when it comes out on blu-ray (already have The Dark Knight), and so that'll be another $20 I saved.

    She says that she still has a couple of these bundles available. Let me know if you guys want her e-mail/number.
     
  7. T-Slack

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    You guys be safe shopping on black Friday. Anyways I found this page abut the dirty secrets of Black Friday.

    Here's a Black Friday reality check: Of the hordes of pre-dawn shoppers who line up for hours outside stores on the day after Thanksgiving, most will not bag the best bargains that appear in merchants' circulars.
    Look at the fine print that appears next to an advertised "doorbuster deal" at the bottom of the page in this year's circulars.
    It will either say "While supplies last," "Minimum 2 per store," "No rainchecks" or "All items are available in limited quantities."


    A quick scan through a few of this year's Black Friday circulars show quantities as low as a "minimum of 5 per store" on some models of large plasma and HDTVs and popular brands of home appliances such as a washer-dryer pair.

    Link
     
  8. T-Slack

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    Anyways I wanted to post my two cents of black Friday. I think some people come out and line up for black Friday for more of a chase of finding a deal instead of looking for what they really need, and grabbing stuff other people actually need. I dunno. That kind of stuff gets on my nerves.
     
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    Anybody know if that Call of Duty limited edition xbox has a chance of going on sale? My cousin's xbox just got RRD'd
     
  10. Ziggy

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    Most educated buyers already assume as much. To be honest, its not that sketchy and slimey. You can get a lot of the deals fairly easily. Its not a "lets scam everyone" type thing.
     
  11. Dr of Dunk

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    The sad thing is that many know this and still end up going just in case they can get what they're looking for. I don't know if I'd ever wait in line for a "doorbuster", but I'm reconsidering even going to get the washer I want since several lower-end washer/dryer combos are on sale that could perform as well for me. I may still drop in around 5-6am at Best Buy and if I can't get the one I want, I'll just pop over to Lowe's or HD and buy another one that's hopefully still on sale. If that doesn't work, I'll just wait. I'm not in too much of a rush. I've already read that the washer/dryer combo I'm looking for already had a 50% off sale for Reward Zone members about 2 weeks ago, so supplies may be low... we'll see. In the meantime, I'm going to see if there's something else on sale now in all the pre-BF sales that'll work.
     
  12. rezdawg

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    Is everything brand new and packaged separately?
     
  13. Dr of Dunk

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    From BFads : Sony's having a PS3 or BluRay + TV combo sale (pre-BF) : http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...=A:2187655:10383604::CJ&ref=http://bfads.net/

    There's a Sony 46" 120Hz 1080p tv + PS3 120GB for $1000 w/ free shipping on there.

    BFads is saying there are firesales going on on tv's out there. Since I am not in the market for a tv, I can neither confirm nor deny. :grin: They mention Sears having a pre-BF sale on a 54" Panasonic Viera 1080p plasma for $1100.
     
  14. Coach AI

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    Amazon just started their 'Black Friday Week'.
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    Dirty Secrets of Black Friday

    http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108212/dirty-secrets-of-black-friday-doorbusters

    Here are a few things bargain-hungry consumers need to know before they hit stores before dawn the day after Thanksgiving.

    Here's a Black Friday reality check: Of the hordes of pre-dawn shoppers who line up for hours outside stores on the day after Thanksgiving, most will not bag the best bargains that appear in merchants' circulars.

    Look at the fine print that appears next to an advertised "doorbuster deal" at the bottom of the page in this year's circulars.

    It will either say "While supplies last," "Minimum 2 per store," "No rainchecks" or "All items are available in limited quantities."

    A quick scan through a few of this year's Black Friday circulars show quantities as low as a "minimum of 5 per store" on some models of large plasma and HDTVs and popular brands of home appliances such as a washer-dryer pair.

    Should Black Friday deal hunters feel cheated? Yes they should, say some retail experts.

    "It's a sleazy practice," said Craig Johnson, retailing expert and president of retail consulting group Customer Growth Partners.

    "I am old school," said Johnson. "If a retailer is advertising a juicy deal and they are not prepared to have in sufficient quantity, don't advertise it. Or give consumers a raincheck."

    Johnson said it's not enough for retailers to mention that they'll have such limited quantities of a product on one of the most-hyped shopping days of the year.

    "Retailers aren't winning any customers. They are just pissing off people," he said. "It's poor retailing practice."

    Unfortunately for consumers, more examples abound.

    CNNMoney.com spoke to industry experts to uncover a few dirty secrets of Black Friday deals.

    Limited quantities: Advertising a Black Friday deal as "limited quantities" is bogus, said Johnson.

    "The only time it makes sense to have only two or three [items] in stock is if the deal is on a $2 million gift product that appears in the Neiman Marcus holiday catalog," he said.

    Edgar Dworsky, a consumer advocate and editor of Consumer World, agreed with Johnson.

    "C'mon guys. Give me a break," said Dworsky. "How can you be the size of a retailer like Sears and only get a minimum of five per store, yet devote big space in your circular to advertise that deal?

    Sears (SHLD, Fortune 500) has not officially revealed its Black Friday sales. However, the company confirmed to CNNMoney.com that two of its post-Thanksgiving deals include a Samsung 40-inch 1080p LCD HDTV for $599.99, "Only while quantities last, minimum three per store, no rainchecks."

    The other is a Kenmore 3.5-cubic-foot high-efficiency washer and 5.8-cubic foot dryer pair for $579.98, "Limit four per store, no rainchecks."

    "Sure, you probably have more, but how do you put out a circular to millions of households and only have three?," Dworsky asked.

    When asked for a comment, Sears spokesman Tom Aiello said he was "not comfortable" addressing the issue of limited quantities for some Black Friday deals.

    Such short supply on deals are not only annoying but can also be dangerous to Black Friday shoppers.

    "We saw the stampede at a Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) store in New York last year on Black Friday that led to an employee's death," said Burt Flickinger, managing director of consulting firm Strategic Resource Group. "The stampede happened because so many of the deals were advertised as limited supply."

    One retailer, while not explaining why its advertised deals are in such limited supplies, said it is taking measures to better handle the Black Friday rush.

    "From going down the line and handing out doorbuster tickets that guarantee a purchase in advance of the store opening, to printing the minimum quantities in the circular, we go to great lengths to ensure that the Black Friday consumer knows exactly how many items will be at the store and whether or not they will be able to purchase one prior to entering the store," Best Buy (BBY, Fortune 500) wrote in an e-mail.

    What do you mean this HDTV is a "derivative?" Some of the holiday electronics with those low sale prices are derivatives, models that have a few less features than a standard model in that product line, said Dworsky.

    The difference can be subtle. "The image contrast ratio might be 20,000 in a derivative model versus 30,000 in a standard model," he said. "Most consumers probably won't even notice the difference."

    A report earlier this month in Consumer Reports called attention to HDTV models from Samsung and Sony advertised in Black Friday deals that appear to be "derivatives." The report said these one-off TVs "with unfamiliar model numbers" are usually cheaper than the standard model in their class.

    Dworsky cautions that retailers usually don't advertise these models as derivatives. "There's no way the average consumer will know that the TV model they are buying is not the standard one unless they are savvy enough to compare their model numbers," he said.

    Which Black Friday deals are online? "Many retailers will say that their Black Friday deals are available online," said Dworsky. "But they're not nice enough to tell you which ones."

    "How about telling me which exact ones so I can shop online from home and I'm not in my pajamas at 5 a.m. in front of your store," he said.

    Online deals that never get shipped: Case in point: Sears. Last year, one of Sears' hottest Black Friday doorbuster deal was on a Kenmore washer-dryer pair for $600.

    Even though the retailer advertised that deal to be in "limited quantities," the company decided to honor every customer order made on that deal last Black Friday.

    Big mistake. The manufacturer could not ramp up production fast enough. Some customers waited months before their order was shipped. Others were sold a substitute model, that was "comparable or even better" for the same deal price, said Sears' Aiello.

    Lesson learned. "We will not be doing that again this year," he said.

    Be careful if you're shopping online on Black Friday, said Dworsky.

    "Since retailers don't have a live inventory online you run the risk of getting an e-mail weeks later that your order had been delayed or worse, canceled, because the product is out of stock," he said.

    About those rainchecks: Finally, if a retailer does offer you a raincheck on a deal, it could still turn out to be an empty promise, Flickinger warned.

    "A raincheck doesn't guarantee that you will eventually get that elusive Black Friday deal," he said. "Consumers can go weeks waiting and hoping, and the retailer may never get more of the product shipped to its stores."
     
  16. rikesh316

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    Does anybody know what time the Black Friday specials start at Walmart.Com? Thanks.
     
  17. ItsMyFault

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    I would guess Midnight on Friday.
     
  18. SwoLy-D

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    How about 12:00:01 on Friday morning? ;)

    When you say Midnight Friday, it sounds like Saturday morning...
     
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    Cool thanks for the help. I am guessing its likely eastern time.
     
  20. ItsMyFault

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    Oh, why thank you Professor Swoly, I've learned a great lesson today.
     

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