No. There has not been a single player "dominate" in Euroleague since the 80s. Scola was never even remotely near to any such thing. Actually, he is a much better NBA player than he ever was in Euroleague. He is best in FIBA, then NBA, then ACB (Spanish League), then Euroleague was easily the worst level he performed at. And in case you did not know, All-Euroleague is 25% online fan voting and the remaining 75% which is voted by media only (no coaches), can only include players from top 8 teams, and players from final four teams are supposed to take precedent in the media voting. So it has literally no resemblance at all to an all NBA team, even though every NBA fan on Earth seems to think it does.
http://twitter.com/DraftExpress Might not be a factor, though it very well could end up being the difference, should a team previously have had concerns about his buyout.
The concern now is not about the buyout. The concern Biyomba's camp has is what happens to him in Europe if there is an NBA lockout. It's a lock that he's a first round pick in my opinion, and it should be a lock that he is a top 14 lottery pick. So, with that in mind, if there is a lockout in the NBA, can he go back over to Europe on a one-year deal somewhere?
Yeah, I get that. I was just looking at it from a NBA team's perspective. If you have Biyombo and say Kanter rated just as high and one has a $1mil buyout, don't you go with the guy who has no buyout? Also FWIW, should Biyombo, for whatever reasons, not find a team in Europe that's willing to give him a one-year contract, he could play in the D-League. "In addition, the D-League -- which will continue to operate during an NBA work stoppage because its players are not NBPA members [...]."
Bismack is starting to look further and further out of our reach. He will likely not be around at the 14th pick and it will be hard to try and trade up for him. Other teams picking before us are drooling over him as well.
Not convinced Biyombo is going before the 14th pick. NBAdraft has him at the end of the 1st round and they have been pretty accurate the last couple of years with their Mocks. The biggest snafu for those guys was thinking Dujuan Blair would go in the lottery when he actually when in the second round. Maybe they are just slow to come around and will have him in the lottery before draft day.
I don't think nbadraft is very accurate and after watching the Nike Hoop Summit I have a hard time believing a team will pick guys like Fredette, Motiejunas or Terrence Jones, let alone the Morris brothers, Honeycutt, Tobias Harris, Mack, Nolan Smith, etc. over Biyombo. I think there's a better chance of Biyombo going top-5 than him falling outside the lottery. JMO though.
You guys are incredibly overrating the significance and level of the Nike Hoop Summit. Macvan absolutely dominated at that game (much more than Biyombo) and he can barely even get on the floor with his Euroleague club. He either gets the DNP-CD or logs about 8-10 minutes if he does play. Just because you have a nice game at the Nike Hoop Summit does not mean you will be a first round draft pick. Pappas directed the entire game and ran the offense and led his team with his smarts to a win against the USA at that game and he has never even once in his career been even listed in a mock draft. Motiejunas had a great game at that game and he is nothing more than an average starting power forward at the Eurocup level, which is just the second continental competition, below Euroleague. It's not as good as leagues like Euroleague, Spain, Greece, United, and probably not Italy or Russia either. About the level of the Adriatic League probably. So an average starting power forward in a mid-level European league (Motiejunas) and he tore up the Nike Hoop Summit. And Motiejunas cannot guard anyone at that level either. He is terrible on defense at that level. The Nike Hoop Summit importance is really being severely overstated here.
Good points. The Summit does help one get noticed though. Biyombo is a project,but his athleticism,strength and defensive abilities will help him in this relatively weak draft. I think he will be a low lottery pick. The Rockets might just miss out on him.
I'm not overrating the Hoop Summit at all. It's not so much about how well you play, but more so about what you show. Just because a guy had a good game at the Hoop Summit, doesn't mean he'll be a good NBA player, I understand that. But Biyombo's game is one that translates. Certain players are simply better suited to play in the NBA and vice versa. It's basketball, yeah, but the European game is different. Faster pace, less spacing, legal zone defense, legal handchecking and overall more contact allowed. You can talk all you want about some of the best European players playing in Europe and NBA teams targeting the wrong guys, but some things simply don't translate. Some guys may be better than others in Europe, yet would be less effective NBA players.
The Nike Hoop Summit has absolutely no resemblance to anything played in Europe. Players that DOMINATED that game MUCH MORE than Biyombo have not yet amounted to anything in Europe. And yes the NBA is obsessed with the same players I am talking about. The bottom line is the Nike Hoops Summit is an extremely low level of competition and I am baffled as to why this forum suddenly thinks it is so important. This "translates" stuff is just NBA fantasy talk. Nike Hoop Summit is like a pick up game. There is no reason to "translate" a thing.
Of course it doesn't -- it's a camp for 18 year olds that only get to play together for less than a week. It's a scrimmage meant to highlight the talents of some of the youngest up-and-comers. Trying to compare it to a legitimate competitive league is stupid -- it is what it is. Usually you get to see the future stars of college (Austin Rivers, James McAdoo, Anthony Davis, Bradley Beal this year) vs. some of the youngest European talents (Biyombo).
eerrr wrong they tested him a while back, his not that old.. He just has a very developed frame at a young age. BTW guys, Draftexpress finally has a scouting report on Bismack Biyombo. From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Finding-a-Niche-For-Bismack-Biyombo-3683#ixzz1JqPtvuvM http://www.draftexpress.com
