You asked a very stupid question. You need to accept personal responsibility when asking stupid questions. If you were a responsible non child like adult you'd be like "my bad hombre, I didn't realize my question was r****ded. Please force my lack of intelligence in such a basic civic matter"
Retarted? You would think a person as into others' rights as you would not make fun of a protected class of individuals. And the word is EXCEPTIONAL these days. You F'n moron.
Definitely not his first time. He has a grudge with me because he thinks I insulted culinary arts as a profession because I think he's weird in fearing being "canceled" because he wants to ask teenage college girls as a 40+ year old dining hall employee about what is female sexually. For some reason he thinks that is me insulting culinary arts rather than insulting his creepiness.
It says a lot about your bigotry of the protected class when I merely mention your r****deness and you perceive it as an insult. Wist till you learn that people with left leaning views aren't the PC word police you believe them to be. I have no issues far shaming or calling someone r****ded. You are r****ded. Probably fat also. And yes I'm shaming you for being fat.
Obviously unconstitutional and offensive to even issue the EO. It should lose in the courts all the way up to the Supreme Court. Then I'm not taking any bets on what happens there. But I think the point of this EO is to get media and social media to spend all their time huffing about this issue and leave less bandwidth for scrutiny of all the other bullshit he's ordering. And even though we all should know his playbook by now, it will still work.
People like you espouse to be the protector of those who are downtrodden and then boom. You get triggered and your true self comes out. You sir are the worst kind of person. You jabs and insults at me do not affect me. If it came from someone on this board I respected, I would take a step back. But you, no you are just an unsuccessful agitator. Again, I'm sorry that all you have in life is this Rockets Talk Board to verify your self deemed level of importance. You are just a shadow troll in your mom's basement.
I'm in the same boat. My parents didn't have PR yet when I was born. Beyond the logistics of getting citizenship at birth, there's a general principle that as Americans, we're all equal to each other. That was the principle behind the 14th amendment as this country has a very ugly history of denying citizenship and basic rights to people who were born here (whether applied to slaves, Native Americans or even immigrants from certain countries before the civil war). The 14th amendment's citizenship clause was the response to all of this and has no caveats or exclusions to the principle of citizenship at birth. The debate at the time on the citizenship clause was how to clearly delineate the conditions that granted citizenship (since before the 14th amendment, citizenship could be granted or withheld arbitrarily by states and the federal government). The very clear result of this was an objective standard that determined application of citizenship (by birthright). Additionally, I'm of Indian descent which would mean today that my parents would have zero path to get a green card or naturalize. Now in theory, some will say that if one's parents get PR, that would extend to the child but there's a huge caveat with that. If my parents had immigrated now, they'd be stuck in a 40+ year waiting period just to get a green card (due to the country caps on green cards) so if this goes through, children of Indian and Chinese immigrants on work permits could live their whole life in the US legally and would technically have to leave the country once they turn 18. The parents could stay if their H1B extensions were still active but the child would no longer be a dependent and have to leave so you end up with a situation that the one person who was born and lived in the US their whole life would have to leave while the immigrants could stay on a work permit.
I'm sorry brah is this too much "old English" for you to understand that you need a true American native English speaker like me to relay basic civics information that is spelled out word for word? Would you feel less offended if I just called you illiterate? Or lazy? Its only one of those two options right? To ask someone the concept of birthright citizenship when it's clearly stated in plain English means you are lazy or illiterate. No habla english? You aren't r****ded. No, that implies a lack of choice. Your lack of intellectual curiosity and lack of basic literacy is of your own laziness.
THIS I think it will have some strong impacts in its own right but Others will be worse Wow. I suspect alot of induced births in the next 30 days Rocket River
Read my reply you scumbag. Are you an American citizen at present? If not I would suspect you would go to the front of the line for citizenship. I know nothing of the process, but I wish you luck. What about this is in any way political. I was wishing a guy that I may not always agree with the best of luck getting what we rightly deserves, a positive outcome. I respect him, you not so much. For you to take that and twist it into something just reenforces how into trying to Gotcha me you are. I'm sorry I'm rent free in your head that you need to resort to lies to get me into your play pen. Go grab a hot pocket and shut your baby b**** mouth.
Buddy. This is some basic illiteracy you are expressing here. Literacy isn't about just being able to annunciate words that you are reading. Its about being able to pick up context and comprehension of what you just read. He is speaking of birthright citizenship. That means he was born here. The 14th amendment automatically makes you a citizen by default the moment you are born. There is no process. Why would you ask someone who was born here if they are a citizen now? Please don't make me feel justified in calling you illiterate. I feel bad for it but you are making be believe you sincerely have some literacy issues.
@fchowd0311 and @Kemahkeith, can yall take your stupid slapfight over here: https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/beefing-posters.313975/page-15. The rest of us are trying to have a conversation.
It isn't unreasonable, but it would take an amendment to the Constitution to change. The primary downsides of changing would be the increased challenges in getting a person born in this Country to be recognized as a Citizen and that there will be a huge increase in falsified birth certificates (they will falsify the father on the paperwork, and probably be a decent black market for it). Right now, if a baby is born in a US hospital, they handle everything and you don't need any type of paperwork on the parents.
There is a non-zero chance that the SCOTUS will roll over and be Trump's b****. The SCOTUS did exactly that for S3 14A. I would bet that following the same BS logic, the 22A now requires Congress to explicitly remove Trump's eligibility for a third term. Since the SCOTUS has already used the 14A to wipe their asses, birthright citizenship is in great peril.
It is a non-zero chance, but still, I think Supreme Court will end up 8-1 against. Wouldn't shock me though if a lower court upheld the decision so that it was implemented for a time.
As with most things, I don't believe in absolutes. I personally believe, if a person is born in the United States from parents that are in the country legally, you should be a citizen. However, if you are born here to parents that are in the country illegally, then you should not. I also think there should be an expedited legal process that allows people who have lived in the US for all their lives to become legal and citizens provided they aren't murderers or rapist. That being said, the constitution is the constitution and it says everyone born here is a citizen. I don't believe it's perfect which is why we have the amendment process.
