[BimaThug] how the rockets can avoid the tax while signing buyout guys

Harden thrives in adversity. Just not too much adversity. I think this is just the right amount. I just think these guys all need the health for the opportunity to gel. Contracts will work out fine, we'll get or have who we need to win it all. The rest is performance.

 

If we somehow get over the tax this year we're shooting ourselves in the foot. It would mean we would have to get back under the tax either next year or the year after, which will hurt a lot more than the nonmoves we made this year. If we don't spend big next year I'm completely on board with boycotting Landry's though lol... Even though I already basically do. Not a fan of most of his places.

 

It would have really simplified things if we could have dumped Nene. Oh well.

 

That and restructuring his contactc at this point hardly moves the needle. Next year we're going over the LT and, as fans, we don't care how far over we have to go to win a second consecutive championship.

 

Listened to Locked on Rockets podcast and I agree with Ben. This was about situational deals that were in place when they couldn't get a big name. Putting four first round picks for Butler does not seem like a cheap owner but when no one became available with our limited assets it makes sense to think bigger picture with keeping the Rockets window open for longer. The fact that we lost nobody important and seemed to get better in terms of bench depth is pretty great. We need to focus on defense but if we are healthy we are a really good team. Add either depth in the wing or extra big man and sign House at the end of the season for extra insurance and try for 3rd seed. Sounds good to me. Next year will be the telling year if Tilman is indeed cheap which by that time Harden might be looking at other options which I would not blame him. Have been the most angry this year at Morey since he was hired but him undoing his ****ery from this offseason has left me content. All the talk about the East. Who cares? We would only be playing one of them if we get there and you beat GS, then I don't care who comes out the East.

 

It really does set us up to retain our core for the next 3-4 years.

Glad to have your input!

 

I can't believe we have to root against Capela making his free throws for luxury tax savings.

 

That's what I thought, heypartner, but wanted confirmation (and details). Thanks! It's a bummer, but not surprising. I'm thinking there's not a player or team option included at any point of the deal, so we just have to work with it. Daryl certainly has a difficult job and the team has its hands full improving if we have to deal with a somewhat similar situation every year. He'll work with it, wheeling and dealing, because he has to.

Who knows? We still have buyouts to look at for this season. Morey is dealing with the constraints placed on him by the owner and the CBA, and will do what they allow him to do to improve our chances. I don't doubt that. With Harden having the incredible season he has uncorked, you would think that we'd go "all in" this season. The league adjusted to our system (and some have copied it) from last season to this one better than we might have expected.

Who's to say that next season they won't find a chink in Harden's armor, or that the league won't conjure it's own reaction to it? That's what bugs me. This may be our best chance after last season. Who's to say our odds will improve for next season and beyond? All the league has to do is tinker with what has allowed Harden's step backs and we have another big wall placed in front of us and the Finals. Things like that concern me. Maybe I worry too much.

 

My guess is we’re hoping Kieff takes time to heal his injury and sign with us.

And then also sign House? Though I don’t see us bringing House back on the last day of the season. That would just be weird and a distraction.

 

Nobody has to root against Capela for anything.

I'm sure Morey will operate assuming he will make that incentive and plan accordingly. There's no realistic chance he makes the rebounding incentive.

 

Are you allowed to convert incentives into guaranteed salary? If so, we could technically coordinate with Capela:

Ensure Capela doesn’t hit his minutes target this year, but convert his $2 MM in incentives to guaranteed money in 2020

 

lol. And Clint's probably already got a Swiss bank account. Tilman can just dump the money in it.

 

The way to not hit the repeater tax is not get Lux tax 3 years straight, it's almost impossible to get out of lux tax next year and the year after with Harden and Cp3's increasing salary so the only way not to pay the repeater tax is not pay lux tax this year.

 

I don't know about that. Shumpert is one of those defenders whose effort can rub off on the rest of the guys on the court with him. Nobody wants to look like a slacker out there. When Clint returns, our starting lineup will be:

CP3
Harden
Shumpert
PJ
Clint

That's not a horrible defensive starting five. The bench is where our defense will suffer: EG, Faried, Rivers, Gerald, NeNe, Hartenstein, Clark... ugh.

 

Wait...this is probably a dumb question but isn't Clint's biggest incentive $1 million dollars if the Rockets make the Western Conference Finals?

So if we get to the WCF then we're over the tax this season????

 

Not enough time in the world for what I don't know! lol

 

The Rockets' current cap calculation includes the $1M Capela incentive already. The way incentives are estimated for cap purpose during the season is by whether the incentive is 'likely'. 'Likely' is defined as whether the player had achieved the goal in the previous season. Since the Rockets made it to the WCF last season, the $1M incentive is considered to be 'likely' and already included in the calculations.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rahath...s-center-clint-capelas-contract/#783c12644534