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Bill Simmons Trade Value Rankings (Green and Jabari behind Chet, Banchero, Cade, Barnes, Mobley)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheRealist137, Jul 12, 2022.

  1. harold bingo

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    My interpretation was that he’s saying he knows harden belongs somewhere in this list but he’s leaving him off as a sign of disrespect because he’s annoyed with his antics.
     
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  2. YaoMing#1

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    Scottie Barnes and Cade Cunningham are true franchise guys? That’s a big reach.

    Anthony Edward’s and Evan Mobley as untouchable? Another reach.

    I like all 4 of them but the tiers their in is a little strange.

    hell I’m not even sure Paul George is a true franchisee guy.
     
  3. BigM

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    take these guys voting priveledges away, their bias affects players legacies
     
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    If you took away voting privileges from everyone who had biases you'd be left with 0 voters
     
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    it was a mistake to reliquish their voting rights to the media. I like draymonds idea of new media, they are coming for those voting privledges in the next cba. cant wait
     
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    GIddey (twice) Herb Jones too and yet not a Rocket in sight?! :confused::mad::eek::oops:

    I blame Simmons JG bashing for this continued BS. Ayo and Grimes over 4?!


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    Tier 1A:
    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    Kevin Durant
    Nikola Jokic
    Stephen Curry

    Tier 1B:
    Joel Embiid
    Luka Doncic

    Tier 1C:
    Kawhi Leonard
    LeBron James

    Tier 2A:
    Jayson Tatum
    Jimmy Butler

    Tier 2B:
    Trae Young
    James Harden
    Ja Morant
    Anthony Davis

    Tier 2C:
    Devin Booker
    Rudy Gobert
    Chris Paul
    Paul George
    Damian Lillard

    Tier 3A:
    Jrue Holiday
    Jaylen Brown
    Bam Adebayo
    Khris Middleton
    Kyrie Irving

    Tier 3B:
    Jamal Murray
    DeMar DeRozan
    Donovan Mitchell
    Pascal Siakam
    Zach LaVine
    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
    Draymond Green
    Bradley Beal

    Tier 3C:
    Ben Simmons
    Zion Williamson
    Karl Anthony Towns
    LaMelo Ball
    Anthony Edwards
    Jaren Jackson Jr.
    CJ McCollum
    Klay Thompson

    Tier 4A:
    Darius Garland
    Fred VanVleet
    Dejounte Murray
    Desmond Bane
    Jarrett Allen
    Marcus Smart
    Dorian Finney-Smith
    Mikal Bridges
    Domantas Sabonis
    Al Horford
    Jalen Brunson
    Robert Williams
    DeAndre Ayton
    Brandon Ingram
    Tyrese Maxey
    Andrew Wiggins
    Evan Mobley
    OG Anunoby
    Scottie Barnes

    Tier 4B:
    Derrick White
    Gary Trent Jr.
    Jonas Valanciunas
    Kyle Lowry
    Aaron Gordon
    Jordan Poole
    Kristaps Porzingis
    Tyrese Haliburton
    Seth Curry
    Herbert Jones
    John Collins
    Tobias Harris
    Jerami Grant
    Lonzo Ball
    Myles Turner
    De’Aaron Fox
    Tyler Herro
    Dillon Brooks
    Anfernee Simons
    Malcolm Brogdon
    Cade Cunningham
    Josh Giddey
    De’Andre Hunter
    Brook Lopez
    Michael Porter Jr.

    Tier 5A:
    Mike Conley
    Jakob Poeltl
    Clint Capela
    Terry Rozier
    Franz Wagner
    PJ Tucker
    Immanuel Quickley
    Nikola Vucevic
    D’Angelo Russell
    Keldon Johnson
    Bogdan Bogdanovic
    Gary Payton II
    Jae Crowder
    Kevin Love
    Lauri Markkanen
    Bojan Bogdanovic
    Cam Johnson
    Pat Beverley
    Reggie Jackson
    Rob Covington
    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    Spencer Dinwiddie
    Harrison Barnes
    Kevin Huerter
    Kevon Looney
    Julius Randle
    Gordon Hayward
    PJ Washington
    Kyle Kuzma
    Lu Dort
    Russell Westbrook
    Maxi Kleber
    RJ Barrett
    Alex Caruso
    Caris LeVert
    Norman Powell
    Grant Williams
    Marcus Morris Sr.
    Quentin Grimes
    Joe Harris
    Ayo Dosunmu

    2022 Dropouts
    Joe Ingles 4A
    Kemba Walker 4A
    Christian Wood 4B
    Jusuf Nurkic 4B
    Derrick Rose 4B
    Jonathan Isaac 5A
    Jordan Clarkson 5A
    Kyle Anderson 5A
    Nerlens Noel 5A
    Nicolas Batum 5A
    Richaun Holmes 5A
    Steven Adams 5A
    T.J. Warren 5A
    Bruce Brown 5A
    Buddy Hield 5A
    Danilo Gallinari 5A
    Danny Green 5A
    Evan Fournier 5A
    Jeff Green 5A
    Collin Sexton 5A
    Dennis Schroder 5A
    Blake Griffin 5A
    Kelly Olynyk 5A
    Davis Bertans 5A
    Duncan Robinson 5A
    Tim Hardaway Jr. 5C
    Devonte' Graham 5C
    Ivica Zubac 5C
    Cameron Payne 5C
     
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    I think people are missing that the Simmons list was a trade value list, not a best player list.
     
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    Lol didn't he like herb Jones more than green but then only has him in the has upside column?
    Also what did cade do that was that much better than green that he is 2 categories above green
    Lastly how do you differentiate between the top 3 picks without them even playing in preseason
     
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    That's not ridiculous when you consider how Harden looked last year and how much money he is going to want and what it would take salary and player-wise to get him.

    Smart is set to make less than 20 million a year while Harden will be pushing 40, I love Harden but at this point he is not a 20 million more a year player than Smart.
     
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    So you think new media does not have biasis?
     
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    The fairest voting system would be totally giving it to Clutchfans. We are the most objective, fair-minded, level-headed, knowledgeable, and neutral people with no biases whatsoever. Every voting result would be the most accurate and worthy.

    Do it, Silver!
     
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    Not even Nix made it.... Criminal..
     
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    Jalen Green must have the “chucker who does nothing but score and plays no D” label
     
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    Leaving Green off is one thing, but how is it possible to claim to be a basketball website and STILL rank Westbrook in the top 125 after what everyone has seen the last few years?

    He is not and has not been someone who should be considered for these “top whoever” lists for years now.
     
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    It doesn`t matter. The young Rockets will eventually make the list. Here`s hoping that the coaching position be upgraded.
     
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    Even if you think that JG didn't make it because he's just a 2nd year player (there's other 2nd year players in there but w/e)

    How does Gordon not make the list?
     
  20. mfastx

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    If we're basing it off last year alone, then I understand not having JG in the top 125. I personally had him top like 160 in my rankings.

    But some of those guys ahead of him that Clutch pointed out are just comical. Most were objectively way below him last year.
     

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