Bill Simmons: Jaylen Brown wants to be traded to Houston?

How good is jalen brown ?

I don’t watch enough nba to know .

he looks like a good scorer , but I don’t see anything special jumping off the page .

to me he gets a lot of his points assisted . Which is both good and bad . It’s good because it demonstrates that he can move within an offense and get looks that way .he also created more and more for himself .

It doesn’t look like he creates for others very much .

im not sure he’s the type of piece you want to be adding. How is he really on defense ?

and he seems to be the type of player you bring in with another . Paul George AND Kawhi . He’s 26. I don’t think Tatum is stunting his growth .

He can get a little better . But he already doesn’t play full seasons (tho I guess no one does ) and where’s the extra progression coming from ?

I am not that high on green , but it’s easy to see upside if he grows in certain areas .

he needs a lot of work for sure , but he’s young .

for brown , what’s it gonna cost us ?

jabari it’s even easier to dream . And sengun has shown a lot on the floor in terms of both scoring and creating . In terms of projection some people like the athleticism of green more and think that will help him be the best player .

I’d be hard pressed to give up on any of these guys now .

I really wish we got to see more of

green
Kpj
Tate
Smith
Sengun

but if we get a top 2 pick one of our starters will prolly be replaced by that guy . (maybe not )

I want to see green take on more ball handling and creation opportunities. And I want to see him moving off ball more . If jalen brown is a guy that can teach green that combination . Then that’s be great . But green better be ready .

But giving up smith or sengun would be a hard pill to swallow . I’d give up kpj and Tate to make that happen instead , and y’all know how much I love Tate .

ultimately idk if that’s what Boston wants .

I’d rather use our cap space to push into a better FA market and use it to pick up assets or take on a bad contract . We have space to sign 1-2 smaller vet deals to take on good mentors for us .

let’s see where the chips fall in terms of our draft pick .

I believe it’s a 6 player draft . Let’s hope if we get the 7th we can do something with it.

we need a veteran guard who is still effective who can show these guys the ropes . Idk who that is .

 

If I had to give up Sengun and KMJ plus a couple of 1sts I would and I like Sengun more than most. But you gotta pay to get a 25 pt per game guy who can create his own shot and isn't a terrible passer. Plus he tries to play defense. You gotta pay for that

 

but does he fit with both green and porter ? Or are we gonna get rid of one ? Starting those 3 is ok I guess . In this scenario are we keeping our first this year ? Giving up a bkn pick ?

imo compare us to other young teams . Those teams have equivalent young pieces and more ammo in the war chest .

We’ve got to run our own race . I think if we get pick 5 or 6 we still need to take it . However if we could steal future value from one of those teams maybe you’d do it too . Lol idk

 

You make it fit for great players. Brown has the potential to be a lot like Harden was before he came to Houston, minus the point guard skills.

 

That... That is like a major part of Harden's specialness and unlike with Harden, Brown has almost maxed out his usage rate to a level right before you would consider a player heliocentric and the last thing you want is heliocentric usage rate for a non-playmaker.

This isn't a situation of a player having a smaller role going to a team making him the number one option. Brown is already 1B on the Celtics when you look at his usage rate.

Jaylen Brown isn't a "great player" in the sense that he's going to be in top 5 MVP voting like Harden in his prime. He's a borderline top 20 player and that is around the max of who he will be.

 

Not top 5, but if he's a player that you can go to and get a bucket when you are going through a drought or a bucket at the end of a game then it's well worth it. That's a major thing this team is missing and Brown can do this. IMHO

 

Those are the players that are best at what you described. I don't see Brown.

 

There's no Tatum on the Rockets. Does this include drawing fouls and getting to the line?

Also there's a difference between Green hitting big shots on a bad team vs playing with Boston and I don't want to trade Green.

 

I mean Brown has never had a ftr higher than current Green.

 

Obviously you don't care lmao, if you cared about proof, you wouldn't be a moron.

 

Defamatory speech implying pedophilia as fact is not protected by 1A when it can ruin a reputation ---- just saying! ... calling someone a JOF is protected though!

 

There you go with the name calling, which tells me you’re getting emotional about it. Let me play the tiniest violin for you

 

It actually is protected. It's not protected if you do a campaign to spread the accusation where then a civil court can judge if the accusation had impact on an individual with monetary value. For example if the accusation spread caused the individual to lose their job.

 

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The fact that I jokingly called you a pedo made you feel acceptable removing self awareness from your end in which that would be the only reason I regret trying to teach you something.

So this just made you dig in to your lack of self-awareness.

 

Sure you have to pay for that. The question is at what price? We already have a future guy that many predict to be a better offensive player than Brown that plays the same position. You could even say that KPJ is on a similar projection, although his work ethic doesn’t look to compare. When drafting I prefer a BPA approach. When trading fit becomes more important. Brown doesn’t fit with our core right now, but a good coach would make him fit at the right cost. If it’s just draft picks and role players great. I’d love to see a lineup like:

Harden/KPJ/Tyty
Green, Brown, KPJ
Brown, Tari, KJM
Jabari, Tari, Garuba
Sengun, Jabari, vet defensive center.

We would still have money to sign other role playing vets. If Brown wants out, I think the Celtics might take this year’s picks, most of the Brooklyn picks, and guys like KJM, Tate, or Garuba.

 

I guess it would be up to the lawyers to prove how the unfounded accusation damaged the offended. Calling a guy a JOF is a far cry from calling a guy a pedo and are not even in the same universe in comparison.

 

So you’re starting again, huh? You didn’t teach me anything, you just made yourself look stupid and pathetic. Your sensitivity is beyond hilarious imo

 

Has anyone thought of why Jaylen Brown wants to be traded to Houston? There is no redeeming qualities, bad owner, team that has finished bottom 3 in 3 straight seasons. No coach, lots of dysfunction etc.

Maybe he secretly loves the strip clubs?

 

**** let it go man.

It wasn't a good look and continuing the bullshit isn't helping.

 

Did everyone listen to the end of that Simmons segment that created all this discussion? He said if Jaylen gets all nba, which he probably will, it's all moot. We're being used for pay leverage again.