Bill Simmons: “In the whisper circles, everybody seems to think he’s going back to Houston.”

Even if that was the case I rather roll the dice on it that then signing FVV and scrub vets.

 

Thankfully stone is not stupid enough to sign FVV over a far superior player in Harden. Harden is the best point guard currently in the nba and FVV is not even top 8 or even top 10

 

Harden should go get a ring. That's not going to be with Houston, he needs a to be in a position where he's a 2nd or 3rd best option. Houston, he'll be our #1 option, which means he won't be contending, which means he probably shouldn't be coming to Houston.

The Rockets need quite a bit, Harden coming to Houston isn't going to magically turn this team into a contender, and the whole forum was tired of not making the Finals w/ him when he was in Houston. I'd watch the mediocre, 1st round exit Rockets, but Houston doesn't want that, it wants championships.

It's all about those picks that we owe to OKC, so Harden needs to come back to right that wrong? Houston should simply do their best in putting together the best roster it can muster, and just compete for another season. It has nothing to do with Harden specifically, just find a real formula for championships when you committed to trading Harden and blowing the whole thing up.

 

The draw for Houston, I think, is that Harden immediately improves the talent on the team with both his gravity and play making so the kids will be better situated to develop. They also should win more meaning that they will begin to experience more meaningful play as soon as next season which should hasten their develpment.

The draw for Harden is that he gets the bag and he gets to live in the place he wants, the lifestyle he is comfortable with and because the roster is so young he can play without the pressure of chasing the ring. Now if he the type that craves that then he should stay in Philly...

 

Given the cap space and total assets available - Can you do enough around Harden to create a real championship contender in the coming season? I think you can ....

 

harden ain't com'n

get over it

philly or la

 

Harden training and partying in Houston right before the Philly playoffs start. He coming.

 

Yes. I might be more resistant to it if we happen to get Scoot (13.4% chance, go!), but as of now there is nobody we care about him displacing as the primary ballhandler. Green, Smith, and Sengun are all made better by getting passes from a floor general like Harden.

 

Green, Sengun Garuba and Christopher are all coming into the 3rd season AND with a new EXPERIENCED coach. This is the year where things usually start to click. That does not mean they are ready to compete for a championship but they will be ready to compete for a playoff spot. If Harden is all about winning a championship he's looking in the wrong place. If he's looking to getting back to a fan base that loved him and being where he succeeded the most and maybe relish a bit in that then come on back but this team is no where near ready to be a contender.

 

Does it make it easier or harder for him to come back to Houston if he wins a ring in Philly?

Maybe if he gets that ring he would be happy enough just contending for a playoff spot in Houston and maybe making a few more postseasons before his career comes to a close.

On the other hand, maybe if they win it all, it convinces him it's worth taking a pay cut to stick around with Embiid? (I have my doubts they'll offer him a full max extension, Morey loves Harden but he's also a cautious GM.)

 

Per Nook in another thread, the young guns are looking for a culture/coach that will provide structure, accountability, and equal treatment. The question is whether Harden will fit into that culture. Is it worth a few more wins in the regular season with Harden but at the expense of developing the young core with the right mindset and the culture that they are asking for? Let's face it, the Rockets will never contend for the championship with Harden. Been there, done that and, nada.

 

We aren't winning anything anytime soon, u grab the best playmaker for the proper development that the youngsters need

 

lmao you losers love losing.

2010-2013 Rockets stuck on mediocrity treadmill, get Harden and make the playoffs every year, lose Harden and are the worst team in the league every year. Clearly Harden is the problem!

 

Hungover Harden ready to make a fool of himself, in the most important time of his job like we're all used to seeing.

 

If that were to happen Harden would have to at least run it back and defend that title, it wasn't like he was a hired gun like Kawhi to Raptors trade, Harden wanted Philly because of that Morey connect and I feel the competitor side would want a chance to repeat as champs (though I could be wrong)

If they were to lose in the Finals then I could see it being somewhat easier decision for him coming back, especially if Rockets get first pick and bring in another high end player via free agency or trade

Harden stated that he had unfinished business and owes a debt to Rockets, so at least its a legit possibility on a said return

Money talks and at this stage of career Harden is probably trying to get that last max bag, especially since he already took a discount from Sixers

TBD

 

So how many championships did Harden bring the Rockets and the other teams he played in for that matter? I did not say that Harden was the problem rather, he will not bring us anything more than a few more wins. The bigger problem is what kind of culture will he promote among the young guns on the team. Defense is Harden's biggest weakness and it happens to be the main weakness of this current line up too. We cannot just wish that the addition of a new coach and a few veterans will change the defense when the main man is bad on that part of the game. The Harden experiment is over not only here but among several other teams and there is no sense in getting him back.

 

Our team needs a pg to control the offense. U bring In the best playmaker in the game if possible and worry about defense afterwards. Its an offense driven league and we are basically dead last at it.

We were sht and had sht culture regardless without Harden.

Gotta stop using winning a championship as an excuse to not want a certain player.

 

Yeah, the Warriors definitely should have kept Harrison Barnes and Bogut instead of getting KD because those two won a championship and KD was a loser, who Barnes and Bogut beat!

The Rockets biggest weakness is that the players are bad. Good players would help the Rockets not suck.

You and the “culture” brigade have been proven as idiots for three years running now. Stop posting for all of our sakes.

 

Yeah, the Warriors definitely should have kept Harrison Barnes and Bogut instead of getting KD because those two won a championship and KD was a loser, who Barnes and Bogut beat!

The Rockets biggest weakness is that the players are bad. Good players would help the Rockets not suck.

You and the “culture” brigade have been proven as idiots for three years running now. Stop posting for all of our sakes.