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Bill O'Reilly takes aim at San Francisco

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Saint Louis, Nov 11, 2005.

  1. Saint Louis

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    Osama couldn't find St. Louis on a map. Besides, why would he want to attack all the Muslim Bosnians living there.
     
  2. JBIIRockets

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    I saw the interview last night....

    and I don't see how Letterman owned O'Reilly. I think many people hate O'Reilly because he comes across as a know it all, and people just hate people who act that way. Just because Dave had a "home-stage" advantage, where the audience, no matter what Dave says, will applaud louder than what his guests say in a debate doesn't mean he took O'Reilly to school.

    I really don't know a lot about the Sheehan thing, but if she really said that insurgents are "freedom fighters," then that's an insult to all US soldiers (and their families) fighting over there (whether you believe they should be there or not.)

    And why did Letterman invite O'Reilly to the program if Letterman himself doesn't ever watch the O'Reilly Factor? Could it be that the Late Show needs ratings?? Because if there is one thing O'Reilly does well, it's to get people in front of the tube.

    Finally, it's heartbreaking that Sheehan lost her son in the war, but that doesn't mean anyone who takes some exception to Sheehan's position and her way of delivering her message is a gutless jerk. Letterman paints O'Reilly as not having any sympathy for Sheehan whatsoever when in fact O'Reilly questions only the way she delivers her message.

    That would be like me hating Juwan Howard or Kevin Willis as a person, when actually I just hate the way they play on the court. I wish Juwan Howard wasn't a Rocket right now, but not because I think he's a jerk.

    Everyone should be sympathetic to Sheehan because she lost a loved son. I am. Pretty sure O'Reilly is as well.

    My goody-goody pro-O'Reilly and rare D&D post is done, you can go back to bashing ole Bill again.
     
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    I agree. The audience clapping every time Letterman said something is similar to this board. Since there is a 5 to 1 liberal majority here, anytime a conservative says anything he gets jumped from all angles so it appears that he is wrong, same thing with the Letterman audience.

    Letterman didn't own anything from what I saw. He even admitted that he wasn't intelligent enought to debate with Bill.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't like Bill O'Reilly but I don't see Letterman owning him either. Calling the insurgents in Iraq freedom fighters is sickening.
     
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    just as sickening as calling occupiers in Iraq as liberators?
     
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    or calling tree-hugging lefty terrorist sympathizer and traitor.
     
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    Well O'Reilly having a son has little to nothing to do with insurgents in Iraq. The insurgents in Iraq aren't really a threat to O'Reilly's kid. So for him to act self righteous about them being called freedom fighters on his show is over the top.

    I'm not even saying they should be called freedom fighters, because I don't believe most if any of them really are fighters for freedom. I think the best any of the could hope for would be called defenders of their homeland. But for O'Reilly to act pompus and claim that anyone who would kill his child won't get called a freedom fighter on his show, his a case of him grandstanding.

    Dave called him on it by saying 60% of what Bill says is FOS. That applies to O'Reilly's made up war against Christmas that didn't really exist, or any of the other stuff that O'Reilly does.

    Bill owned or got the better of O'Reilly because O'Reilly claimed that Sheehan was controlled by left wing organizations. As Dave pointed out, O'Reilly hasn't lost a family member, he hasn't walked a mile in her shoes, so to create a publicity campaign against her is silly. Dave called on him on it, and people enjoyed seeing that.

    Yes, Dave had the home audience in his favor. Yes it wasn't a point by point factual debate. It wasn't fact points that Dave owned Bill. Dave owned Bill by calling out his grandstanding, self-righteous, pompus, grandiose, self-promoting style.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Yup, a right honorable pwnage. However, Stephen Colbert pwns O'Reilly 4 nights a week far worse. Have you ever switched between the Colbert Report and the Factor back and forth? It makes it even more funny.
     
  10. Saint Louis

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    I often love thinking about our modern terms put on things. Terrorist, freedom fighters, etc. Back in 1776 they were just revolutionists to the British, but we call them patriots now. In 1862 they were rebels to the North, but statesrights defenders to the South. I guess it depends on what side your on, or what party you belong to or whether you prefer yoga or guns.
     
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    I haven't done the "switching back and forth," Sam, but that might be fun. Colbert is a riot, and he's painted a big bullseye on his "good friend," O'Reilly.

    Didn't get to see Dave's show last night, dammit. :(



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  12. plcmts17

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    O'Reilly is so full of it. I'm glad he got a taste of his own medicine. The guy who supposedly looks out for you is only looking out for himself. Fair and balanced my @#$,more like twisted and overblown.
     
  13. Uprising

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    Wow, that was something I've never heard before. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    You and your sarcasm are most humbly welcome. :p
     
  15. thadeus

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    Bill O'Reilly's journalistic merit and insight started and ended with his story on Michael Jackson's hair catching on fire on "Inside Edition."
     
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  16. Mr. Clutch

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    No, it doesn't. Look at what these "insurgents" stand for and then tell me that they are freedom fighters. They want nothing more than to crush the average Iraqi and restore some sort of Baathist or Taliban- like rule.
     
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    if you look at the definition of insurgent and freedom fighter, they are very similar..
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Well in that case they shouldn't be called insurgents.
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    howbout the US.. since they're conducting air raids on Iraqi villages which kills women and children what should they be called?..
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    Yes well we know the point of those air raids is to establish a regime that oppresses the lives of Iraqis like Saddam.
     

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