1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Bill O'Reilly Surprised That Blacks Are Not Crazy

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Lil Pun, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,037
    Likes Received:
    15,519
    The opening sentences of the article are:
    "NEW YORK — After eating dinner at a famed Harlem restaurant recently, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly told a radio audience he "couldn't get over the fact" that there was no difference between the black-run Sylvia's and other restaurants.

    "It was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun," he said. "And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all.""

    Doesn't that imply he was expecting "craziness"?
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    49,277
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    That isn't even PC. It is just recognizing the history of bigotry.

    People went after Bill because he had the stereotype.

    The fact is that whites are called uptight aren't really affected by that. Various minority groups have been damaged by that, and the fact that the people might still have a stereotype that would negatively affect their judgement of that person based on race shows that there is damage done by stereotyping.

    There is no truly beneficial to have with someone with a stereotype unless it is to dispel that stereotype. The fact that a great injustice has been done to a race of people in this country based on a stereotype is certainly reason enough to criticize those that continue to use ignorant stereotypes.
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,046

    That's what makes it a racist statement. Doh.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    49,277
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    There is nothing about "hip-hop" culture that would indicate black restaurants would be crazy with people yelling MFer at wait staff.

    Furthermore neither Jackson nor Sharpton preach being crazy and yelling cuss words at waitstaff of restaurants. Bill got that stereotype from somewhere else.
     
  5. DonkeyMagic

    DonkeyMagic Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    21,569
    Likes Received:
    3,426
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

    DonkeyMagic Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    21,569
    Likes Received:
    3,426
    who said anything about yelling MFer at the wait staff? only you so far.

    referencing jackson and sharpton is never a good idea since they make their living on creating more racial tension than need be. Which, by the way, neither have been that concerned with bill's statements...unless i've missed their on going protest against this. Or are they too busy defending some punks that felt the need to gang up on 1 kid that did nothing wrong...other than being born white?

    amazing how the race card tends to only go one way
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    49,277
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Bill O'Reilly mentioned being shocked nobody was yelling "MFer get me some iced tea"

    So yes it was mentioned.

    I wasn't the one that brought up Jackson or Sharpton
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    55,145
    Likes Received:
    43,452
    The fact that a lot of people think that way doesn't necessarily make it right or factually correct. It betrays a misunderstanding of a people that is either based on racism or ignorance. Take your pick.

    As for believing something is a white scene or a black scene and that whites are European misses the point that blacks have been living with Europeans for centuries in this country. Anyway why is it somehow having a meal without resorting to craziness and vulgarity European? :confused:

    As for this being a sign that blacks think for themselves as opposed to what Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are trying to preach when have either of them preached that you shouldn't eat a meal in a restaurant quietly and respectfully? How is dining in a civilized fashion a sign of either white or black culture?
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    55,145
    Likes Received:
    43,452
    To further add I've been to restaurants in the suburbs where most of the patrons were white and have seen whites behaving badly towards waitstaff and all sorts of craziness like having kids running around and throwing food. Its a ridiculous presumption that somehow we would expect blacks at a fine dining establishment to be behaving badly while whites wouldn't. Frankly its a disservice to make that presumption to both blacks and whites.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    55,145
    Likes Received:
    43,452
    I watched O'Reilly explain and I will give him a break in that he was address his Grandmother's irrational fear rather than his own. In that sense his statement makes more sense.

    That said though I think O'Reilly doth protest too much in regard to his victimhood. He himself takes quotes out of context to bash people and has been proven wrong several times.
     
  11. tulexan

    tulexan Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,765
    Likes Received:
    5
    I've heard that Hill Country and R.U.B. are good too. I like Blue Smoke. It's a little trendy, but the Texas Salt and Pepper ribs are pretty good and reasonably priced.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    49,277
    Likes Received:
    17,882
    Virgil's was my favorite when I lived there, but it still wasn't Texas bbq. Blue Smoke was good, but it was too sweet, and too expensive.

    They didn't have Hill country, and RUB when I lived there so I don't know about that.

    There was one place in Queens that was actually the best of all the ones I tried. I had it catered to Manhattan once on my birthday.
     
  13. krosfyah

    krosfyah Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2001
    Messages:
    7,446
    Likes Received:
    1,114
    His remarks display the ignorance about his own country which he writes OpEd peices about daily. Being that he has an audience of probably millions, your OPINION that his remarks are not a big deal, in MY opinion, are shortsighted.

    But to each his own, right.
     
  14. mc mark

    mc mark Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    468
    Hey NewYorker! Can you tell us all what "ideas Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are trying to preach"?

    TIA
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now