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Bill O'Brien's coaching staff

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Sydeffect, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. The Real Shady

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    Vick
    1999 Rushing 682 Yds 5.2 Avg
    2000 Rushing 617 Yds 5.8 Avg

    1999 Passing 2065 Yds 57.7 Pct 13 TD's 5 Ints
    2000 Passing 1234 Yds 54.0 Pct 8 TD's 6 Ints

    Manziel
    2012 Rushing 1410 Yds 7.0 Avg
    2013 Rushing 759 Yds 5.3 Avg

    2012 Passing 3706 Yds 68.0 Pct 26 TD's 9 Ints
    2013 Passing 4114 Yds 69.9 Pct 37 TD's 13 Ints
     
  2. RocketScientist

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    just say no to manziel.

    no time to gamble.
     
  3. justtxyank

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    Could have just summarized :)
     
  4. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    He's got him on stats, I'll give you that.

    But have you seen the talent level on A&M's squad to any of Vick's VT squads during those years?
     
  5. Rudyc281

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    Disagree. Now is the time to gamble
    Go big or go home
    Go all out take risk
    Draft JFF
     
  6. The Real Shady

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    Vick was all flash and no production. He was drafted high because he ran like Barry Sanders and had an arm like Elway. He accuracy was poor and never really learned how to play the position except for that one year under Reid when he was broke and needed some money.

    Your comment though Manziel would be lucky to be compared to half what Vick did in college. is wrong because Vick would be lucky to be compared to half of what Manziel did in college based on production.
     
  7. htownb4lla

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    Vick had some great talent on those VT teams, however the style of offense was so much different. Manziel has a wide open passing offense. Vick ran more of a triple option, read option offense.

    In '99 vick only had 182 passing attempts, in 2000 he had 161. Manziel has had 434 and 429 attempts in his 2 season.

    I was so hyped on Vick when he came out, I watched/followed him since high school. I rooted for atlanta while he played for them.

    The biggest thing that both of them have in common is the running style is always "I can beat you every time" instead of sliding and not taking the hits. Thats not a good thing, and it is so hard to try and curb that running style and teaching them to get down and live to run another play. Look at RG3, same problem.

    Im an Aggie, and I hope JFF does good in the NFL, I just dont think he will be one of the greats.
     
  8. RocketFan007

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    Why is this discussion in the O'Brien staff thread?
     
  9. J.R.

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    I posted a McClain recap (although he didn't say much specifically about the coaching staff).
     
  10. Roc Paint

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    Sorry to say, but Wade is out.

    I would like to be a fly on the wall in a defensive side of the ball players only meeting.
     
  11. tmacfor35

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    Vick T's squads hung with FSU in their hey day.

    Talent level aside, Manziel is the better overall pocket passer.
     
  12. HTown_DieHard

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    lol, mcclain will update it as soon as someone else finds out.
     
  13. Harrisment

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    I don't think many people will be sorry to hear that.
     
  14. tmacfor35

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    This is a good thing.

    This defense couldn't stop anyone when it mattered. I predict Wade will most likely DC for Washington and with RG3 healthy, a playoff emergence from the Redskins in that weak conference.
     
  15. htown1984

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    Man can't wait to hear the staff. OC and DC
     
  16. Breaker

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    disagree. now is not the time to gamble
    pick the smartest player
    get the consensus jewel qb
    draft teddy
     
  17. conundrum

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    Niners and saints were wild cards in that conference, they could both easily challenge for top overall seeds in the AFC. Hell even the cards could be a top 3 seed in the AFC. AFC>NFC
     
  18. Fyreball

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    I'm assuming you meant weak division (NFC East), because the NFC as a conference is significantly stronger than the AFC right now.
     
  19. kevC

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    It's hard to understand John McClain with Johnny Football's dick in his mouth. Even more so than the normal pancakes and flubber in his mouth.
     
  20. Cannonball

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    He probably meant Division, not Conference.
     

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