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Bill O'Brien out?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Jan 1, 2017.

  1. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

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    Here's my take: BoB is a pretty solid HC (remember some of the Oilers HCs?). The problem is that the offensive system they are trying to implement simply does not work. It may be bad game planning, bad position coaching, bad play calling and/or poor execution by players, but it simply isn’t functioning. BoB needs to do with the offense what he's done with the defense - hire a proven OC, turn over the reins to him and GTF out of his way. The entire offensive coaching staff needs to be overhauled along with whatever dummies evaluate offensive talent (Osweiler).
     
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  2. Nick

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    Baby Shanahan also screams of being a career coordinator... but unlike RAC, he hasn't failed (yet) as a head coach.

    He's had less than glowing reviews on how he's been able to handle adversity/player conflict in the past. He's also got serious question marks regarding the type of presence he could possibly command.
     
  3. red5rocket

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    Curious to why we don't fit the offense around the qb instead of trying to fit the qb in the offense...
     
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  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Because that would make WAY too much sense.
     
  5. raining threes

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    It doesn't matter when you're as inaccurate as Os. Terrible footwork to go with a bad OL = offensive disaster
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    There's always ways to make the system more QB friendly, but we've seen with the RB's that BOB doesn't change what he wants to do to fit players or we'd have seen a LOT more screens run instead of wasting 1 out of 4 downs on running Lamar Miller up the middle for no gain.
     
  7. today

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    Truth.
     
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  9. Mr. Clutch

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    He didn't say no!
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Still for this to pass my BS filiter I'd need to hear what better head coach is out there that the Texans want and what better head coaching job is out there that BOB would want. Till I hear that, I just can't buy it.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't see the point of having Bob around in that scenario. What's he gonna do, decide the QB and throw challenge flags?
     
  12. Texanasiafan

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    May as well just pay a guy with a fanduel account to be the head coach of this team then if your only excuse for him is just to find some scapegoats.
     
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  13. Two Sandwiches

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    We have. We've reduced the playbook down, by some accounts, to around 75 plays. The problem is, Osweiler is just plain and simply to inaccurate, and not always good enough or quick enough in his reads, to execute the remedial version of this system.

    You can't change an entire system around over the course of a year. To a point, the quarterback has to fit the system. If you completely overhaul the system to fit the QB, you're asking ten other players to learn all new everything. That's fair to no one - including the coaches.
     
  14. zeeshan2

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    Thoughts on Mcarron?
     
  15. ipaman

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    Chip as OC would be interesting.
     
  16. Nick

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    Not all head coaches call plays or simply serve as head coordinator on one side of the ball.

    You vastly underestimate the overall scope of duties of any head coach. In fact, if they get too involved in their area of expertise, they often lose complete focus on the overall team... a problem Kubiak was all too much part of, and was forced to accept a defensive coordinator who could actually handle himself.

    Like I said before, the most cohesive/stable units out there are headed up by guys like John Harbaugh or Mike Tomlin.... and sadly Jason Garrett is also falling into that mold.
     
  17. coachbadlee

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    This is why I say get him a very good offensive coordinator. I'm talking one of the best out there. The defense will not change one bit with him being head coach. S a matter of fact it will be better with the return of Watt so that won't be a concern.
    The second thing they should do is draft offensive line early and often.
     
  18. Rudyc281

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    I would be for hiring chip. Only thing is no QB we have currently can run his system either.
     
  19. Jturbofuel

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    Chip needs to be an OC in college because his no huddle system puts too much pressure on the defense because they are going to be on the field most of the game. In the NFL you just don't have the depth to play this way.


    Bill Obrien has already replaced the Oline coach and WR coach since his first season here in 2014. The only coaches on the offensive staff that have remained since year one are Godsey, the RB coach, and the TE coach. If Godsey is replaced this year you know this has come from upstairs and if he leaves you know its because he doesn't want to fire Godsey.
     
  20. Nick

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    But the defeneses did regress at his other jobs once he became head coach. And the teams were a mess from a chemistry/cohesiveness standpoint, and many people questioned Crenel's ability to handle all the other responsibilities that come with being a head coach.

    Again, the best coordinators do not automatically equate to being the best head coaches.
     

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