Biker gang plans armed protest for Mohammed cartoon contest at Arizona Mosque

A picture of a dude with a beard yelling.

Yep, seems like a normal protest to me.

 

Why does Sweet Lou hate white people so much?

 

Haha, of course you miss the neo-nazi shirt on him.


Good to know you think that neo-nazi's going with guns to intimidate Muslims is a "nonviolent" protest.

You and Bigtexx are interesting characters. Do you guys normally warp reality everyday or just on this forum?

 

It's not violent if they don't commit violence, no matter how stupid and racist their shirts are

 

Neonazis and Islamists are about equally totalitarian in their mindset.

 

Committing violent acts is not the only morally reprehensible act that exists. Making a moral judgment on an act is not solely based on the criterion of whether the act was legal or not.

I would hope that if a protest's cause draws in ****ing neo-nazis it would be enough for members of this message board to question the morality of such a protest.

 

Okay, but why direct a protest at a mosque that has no history of propagating extremist rhetoric?

What does disparaging a group of Muslims who have done no harm with hateful rhetoric accomplish besides adding fuel to the fire?

 

I don't know - I'm not defending Neo-Nazi bikers. I don't know the history of that mosque. I certainly strongly dislike Neo-Nazi guys like in that photo. I don't know their "rationale" for protesting in front of that mosque. Just like I don't understand the "rationale" behind burning US and Israel flags and attacking embassies in the Middle East because of some cartoons in Denmark. Idiots will be idiots.

 

Well good thing no one thinks that

 

Simple, let's not encourage them by making silly excuses that posters like bigtexxx and Mr. Clutch attempt to do. Let's instead condemn their actions and their viewpoints, both the Islamists and the bigoted protesters.

 

Well, you sure are doing a great ****ing job of convincing me otherwise by trying to euphonize their actions by stating that they aren't being violent.

 

I think I stated that I detest both? I don't suddenly start respecting neo-nazis just because they are also against intolerant Islamists. If anything, these dumbass neo-nazis give paid shills like Reza Aslan an opportunity to play the victim again.

 

I would say members of that particular mosque were victims. All they wanted was a quiet uninterrupted place to perform their religious duties. Luckily the members of that mosque had the moral integrity to invite some of these bigoted assholes into their mosque.

 

Maybe. I don't know anything about that mosque and why this particular mosque was chosen for a protest. If this is a moderate mosque and no extremist propaganda came from it, then it is unfortunate for the people who go to that mosque, I agree. They weren't "victims" as in "victims of a crime" if no crime was committed, but it was most likely undeserved to have people screaming at them and must have been quite unsettling. Still not as bad as what regularly happens to Copts in Egypt whose churches are burned, but still.

But pointing out that the bikers didn't cross the line towards actually being violent doesn't mean agreeing with their political stance or appreciating them as people. I am sure that neither bigtexxx nor Mr. Clutch find these people tasteful or agree with their hate.

 

Why does bigtexxx support the neo-nazi movement so much?

 

I'm just saying they weren't violent. That's it.

Incorrect usage of euphonize, btw

 

Thank you for correcting my diction.

I wonder what the front page on Foxnews.com would look like if a group of armed Muslim protesters protested some Baptist Church in the South?

I wonder if you would display the same "They weren't violent" rhetoric as you do here. You wouldn't have a double standard here would you?

 

Thanks for the clarifications, guys. LOL

 

The better comparison would be armed Muslim protesters in the Middle East attacking embassies, burning flags, etc.

It's usually the fringes of the majority in a society who do such things, those who feel most threatened because they are already the losers (sadly, the fringe in the Middle East is pretty huge). It's almost a way of (unsuccessfully) trying to endear themselves to the majority, by making themselves the spearhead of a movement against outside forces.

 

At least with bigtexxx, I've witnessed no indication to suggest what you assume about him.