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Biggest regressions in opponent FG% from last yr: Thornton, Lawson, Howard, Brewer, and Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Dec 17, 2015.

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  1. bmd

    bmd Member

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    I got the stats from nba.com's SportVU data.

    Here are the stats for opponent FG% from each player. Last year's percentage on the left, and this year's percentage on the right:


    Beverley: 60.2%, 55.6%
    Terry: 54.7%, 59.1%
    Harden: 51.2%, 52.7%
    Ariza: 56.0%, 55.6%
    Brewer: 58.8%, 63.4%
    Jones: 46.3%, 50.0%
    Capela: 30.2% (12 games, 7.5 mpg), 48.4%
    Howard: 45.7%, 50.8%

    Lawson: 56.8% (with Denver),68.8%
    Thornton: 42.9% (last year, 48 games, 15 mpg),66.7%

    Prigioni: 52.1% last year (to compare with the PG who replaced him this year)





    Thornton had a huge regression of about 24%. But I can't imagine he gave up only 42.9% FG% last season... but that's what it says. Lawson had a big regression of 12%. He played with a different team, but still. Followed by Howard with about 5%, Brewer with nearly 5%, and Jones with nearly 4%.



    Really, I don't know how accurate these numbers are or how much the defense of others affects each player's FG% (for example.. maybe the perimeter defenders are worse this year which leads to more easy shots at the rim for opponents which leaves Dwight and/or Jones with a tough contest at the basket.)


    Surprisingly, Harden's numbers this year are just about what they were last year. Same with Ariza.
     
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    Forgot to mention that Beverley's numbers are about 5% better than last season.
     
    #2 bmd, Dec 17, 2015
  3. Cashmoney

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    Wow. Just wow.
     
    #3 Cashmoney, Dec 17, 2015
  4. The_Yoyo

    The_Yoyo Contributing Member

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    at what point do this stat account as opponent fg%

    for example if Harden lets his man cut back door and one of the bigs rotate to cover for him but is late - does that basket count for their opponent fg% or Hardens? OR if they do rotate over and the opponent passes to the man the Rockets big man left for an easy lay in which players opponent fg% is affected then?

    I mean if it goes against Howard/Capela/Jones than thats a problem because its the fault/poor defense of the Rockets wing player that allowed the easy basket not necessarily the Rockets big man.

    This stat isn't totally useless but needs more detail as to how its tracked.
     
    #4 The_Yoyo, Dec 17, 2015
  5. Aleron

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    Those events didn't suddenly start occurring this year.
     
    #5 Aleron, Dec 17, 2015
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    This doesn't really account for shots attempted by the opponents though does it?

    If Thornton only has let's say 100 shots made against him, but Harden has 250 shots made against him that would be a big difference.

    Honestly is surprising how high of a % Thornton gives up, he's looked pretty solid on D this season.
     
    #6 ThatBoyNick, Dec 17, 2015
  7. SF3isBack!!

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    Yeah but by all means blame Harden, lol.
     
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  8. Aleron

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    people were afraid to attack dwight in the paint, not really the case anymore, he got old.

    That and the league is now all about the jump shot, bigs all over have been working on the jumper, extending the range etc
     
    #8 Aleron, Dec 17, 2015
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    How do fastbreak points factor?

    More missed shots (us, namely 3's), more long rebounds, more fastbreaks.. with Thornton (just an example) defending 3-1 for a layup.
     
    #9 thesimp, Dec 17, 2015
  10. AXG

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    Harden is a relatively good defender on this defenseless team.
     
    #10 AXG, Dec 17, 2015
  11. The_Yoyo

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    defense as a whole has slipped and a lot more bad perimeter defense is being played - this is obvious from watching the games.

    all i am saying is a stat like this cannot just be looked at in a vacuum without more context to it.

    Just by looking at this as is one could conclude that Harden is a better defender than both Beverley and Ariza this season and last season which is by no means true at all.
     
    #11 The_Yoyo, Dec 17, 2015
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    These stats are almost useless. If else the defence would be easilly measured.
     
    #12 malakas, Dec 17, 2015
  13. Liberon

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    Regression in everything... If the Rockets beat GSW there's no doubt that they would have b**** slapped Cleveland in the Finals...
     
    #13 Liberon, Dec 17, 2015
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    WTF are these stats based on? They sound completely wrong.
     
    #14 Spacemoth, Dec 17, 2015
  15. don grahamleone

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    Good thread. This is a stat that I hope Morey is seeing. Staying in front of your man and not gambling pays dividends.
     
    #15 don grahamleone, Dec 17, 2015
  16. don grahamleone

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    They're based on the other team's shots made vs shots missed and when you divide shots made by (shots made plus shots missed), you can get a percentage for when the opponents shoot while being guarded by the listed player. WTF is your question based on?
     
    #16 don grahamleone, Dec 17, 2015
  17. rocketsballin

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    consistent effort - this team has none
    pathetic short little spurts - this team has it

    look at harden, didnt miss a step in this advanced stat hohoho
     
    #17 rocketsballin, Dec 17, 2015
  18. daywalker02

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    Actually not a bad game from Terrence Jones against the Lakers

    16 pts in 21 minutes
     
    #18 daywalker02, Dec 18, 2015
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Agreed.

    This stat needs the proper context
     
    #19 Mr. Clutch, Dec 18, 2015
  20. digitallinh

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    These charts are probably more useful when looking at this.

    Comparing opponents usual FG% vs what he shoots while being defended.

    Just looking at these numbers, you can see right away who is noticeably worse on our team compared to last year.

    Terry
    Brewer
    Harden

    The only plus defender we have currently is Capela.

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    #20 digitallinh, Dec 18, 2015
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