Biggest mistakes of the organization for the past 5 years

dude, without yao last yr, and with deke as his backup playing 15-20 minutes, we were competitive in the first round.

if artest isn't traded, we have artest to fill in for tracy and he can play at a pretty high level in the playoffs. and we have more talent this year. keep your head up. the rockets can still get out of the first round if they stay around the 5th/6th seed b/c they can play denver or portland, 2 very beatable teams.

 

we knew during the signing that he had previous injuries that would hinder his time that year but also take note that we also signed charlie ward as the other pg. THAT was a HORRIBLE signing and that is an understatement. it was all because of jvg's influence in getting all old players form the knicks at the time

 

is Derek Fisher your uncle or something?

are you Derek Fisher?

 

hahaha nope i even said i hate derek fisher and his flipp floppy ways in a previous post in this thread. i just feel that he would have helped this team better than any point guard we had from that time till now.

 

Being "win now" mode fresh off a lotto season.

Giving away the 8th pick for Bruce Bowen lite

Cutting Kelenna Azibukke .

Allowing every trade exception to expire.

 

this is all hindsight. having fisher doesn't mean they automatically win the playoffs. look at ron artest....he's not exactly what people thought he would be so far in houston.

JVG was out the door already...his style of offensive play was untolerable with les.

your arguement is not convincing. fisher is not the answer.
furthermore, having fisher decreases the chance of drafting brooks. if drafted brooks would not have playing time and have less development. brooks is the future in the rox.

 

their turnaround happened whenever the got Pau Gasol. If you remember they were not even close to the team they are now when he wasnt there.

 

I almost forgot how much of a beast Sura was that year. If only we had him...

 

But Fisher left Utah to return to LA because of the health of his child, who was undergoing treatment for cancer if I recall. So even if Houston had signed him, he would have asked Les to let him out of his contract just like he asked the Jazz to do. And he would be playing for the Lakers today anyway.

 

I can only imagine how much the fans of this board would hate Derek Fisher if we had signed him for MLE money over 4-5 years. You think Shane Battier has it bad? Fisher would out-role-player Battier, put up some godawful PER's this side of Chuck Hayes, and not a single person would attribute to the fact that he wasn't being coached right.

Is it a coincidence that every year we add pieces to our core that are supposed to complement them, and then their stats decrease proportionally every year that they are here? I'm not implying that no matter who we bring in, they won't fit in with our core and we would be b!tching about them one way or another; I am saying EXACTLY that.

Fisher would all too easily fit into the "aging vet with declining abilities" on a team like this. On a team with consistent coaching and enough talent to go around like LA or Utah, then his skills become useful.

Basically, I've become too disillusioned with this core to believe that anyone complementary player we bring in would be enough to get us "over the hump". We have seen first hand over the past three years how supplementing the staff with talent has induced an equal withdrawal in talent on the part of Tracy McGrady. And if that sounds like a volitional action, it's because it is. T-Mac does not want to lose, he just fears the moment when all his excuses will have run dry and he will have nothing left to do but show up.

 

It's easy to have 20/20 hindsight.

But, when JVG won that last meaningless game, and it lowered us in the draft, causing Portland to take Roy ahead of us, most of us here at the time croaked. Of course, I didn't understand why we didn't trade for Atlanta's pick and take Roy, when that was on the table.

Then, trading Gay and Swift for Battier seemed to really suck at the time. I still am glad we got Battier, but feel we gave too much for him. I believe we could have gotten a future 1st rounder for him, and then picked up Mike Conley or even traded down and gotten both Thaddeus Young and Rodney Stuckey.

Imagine our team with Battier, Stuckey, Young and Roy.

We had an easy deal with Denver for Linus Kleiza we turned down.

There were a number of picks for sale in the 20s in 2007 that could have netted us Rudy Fernandez. I am happy with Brooks and Landry, although at the time I wasn't. I wanted Davis instead of Landry.

I really wanted us to grab Tyson Chandler while he was cheap and NO got him. We could possibly grab him now, since he's on the block, but it would put us in luxury tax territory, and our owner has lost too much in the stock market to do that.

You really have to give Morey credit though for last year's coup. Turning Batum into Donte Green, Dorsey and a pick, and converting that with next year's pick into Ron Artest was amazing. Dorsey hasn't shown his stuff yet, but I still have hopes for him. And, finding Von Wafer was excellent.

Turning Steve Francis, Mobely and Cato into TMac was incredible, even if the Yao/TMac pairing hasn't seemed to work to date.

But, going back to the year of Yao, we had an opportunity to make a trade for the pick that turned into Amare. It would have been awesome to have had both Yao and Amare.

I'm not sure Fisher was the solution, but it should would have been good to upgrade that position by now.

... oh well ... woulda coulda shoulda ...

 

The Lakers use the triangle, which means the PG doesn't have to create for others at all. He just has to shoot and not have turnovers. That's not the case for us.

 

We are witnessing the biggest mistake as we speak

 

Yes, because Houston has the #1 Cancer treatment centers in the world.

It's true though, Houston is really hurting for a good point gaurd. Is there any way that next year we we have a new starting point gaurd???

 

you're saying?

 

Going by the last five seasons:


2004-2005 Not getting out of round one.

2005-2006 Not getting in to round one.

2006-2007 Not getting out of round one.

2007-2008 Not getting out of round one.

2008-2009 Perhaps pinning hopes on an aging squad by signing another aging "star?"

 

I still feel like the Rudy Gay trade is the one that hurts the most. Keeping him could've kept our window for a title open longer. If keeping him didnt work out, he could have easily been moved for a much better player than what we got.

 

Gay for Battier

JVG

Rafer

Calvin Murphy

Not sure about this one yet, but not trading Tracy to Detroit or whoever wanted him (hopefully next year we can cash in when a lot of teams are going to want his expiring $20 some-odd million contract) So this last one remains to be seen

 

2006 will be known throughout Rockets history. I've been beating my brain trying to figure what was the worse player traded for a top 8 lotto. I'm sure its one and I'm missing it.

 

I do not know much about Finsher, but I was so mad when we missed Roy. JVG was crazy that year.