The bottom line is that the top 2 teams over the duration of the season deserve to play for the championship. Looking at the entire year, OU is one of those 2 teams, despite this loss. In my heart, I don't think a team that doesn't win its conference deserves to play for the championship. However, since there is no playoff system and not every league has a championship game, I'm willing to forgive a loss. Nevertheless, Either LSU or USC (the team that isn't in the Sugar Bowl tomorrow) will have a legitimate complaint.
OU may be one of the best teams but let's look at the other 2 teams. LSU lost to Florida, a quality team. USC should not have lost to Cal but they lost in overtime by only 3. Cal is obviously not as good as KSU but KSU is not a top 10 team and have blown out OU. All 3 teams have a legitimate argument.
I wonder what Mike Stoops is thinking right about now. He may want to hire a body guard. Nutty OU fans.
Yes they do. But I still think OU's is greater than USC's. And LSU's is the best right now. Screw the "Beating the same team twice hurts your quality win points" crap! Beating GA twice is a huge accomplishment. If LSU doesn't get in, they got shafted BADLY.
tozai, How old are you, seriously? Aren't you 18?? I think I remember you saying that you were around that age. Look, I have followed college football for over 20 years (pretty much before you were born ) and I can honestly tell you that what you said does NOT apply to college football for the most part. I give you 1989 as the perfect example: You had 4 teams that would play a huge role in shaping who won the NC that year. Those teams were Miami, Florida State, Notre Dame, and Colorado. Florida State lost their first 2 games that season against Clemson and Southern Miss (who had one Brett Favre as their QB) - both games by 3 points. FSU didn't lose another game all season, including beating Miami 24-10. Miami only lost the game to FSU but beat an undefeated Notre Dame team that was ranked #1 at the time in November. Now, Notre Dame played an undefeated Colorado team in the Orange Bowl. Notre Dame beat Colorado, while Miami and Florida State both won their bowl games. Now, here is the question - who was the NC? Miami, Notre Dame, and Colorado all had 1 loss yet it could be argued that the best team in the country, at least at the end of the season was Florida State, but they had 2 losses. In the end, Miami got voted #1 in both polls despite the fact that Lou Holtz protested that Notre Dame should have been voted #1. However, Notre Dame's sin was that they lost in NOVEMBER while Miami lost in October and beat ND head-to-head. Now, if I use your logic, then Notre Dame should have been voted the NC since they had probably the best team for the entire season. But college football voters don't think like that - the later in the season you lose, the more it hurts you. It has ALWAYS been like that - at least until the f*cking BCS came along and let pitiful Nebraska in the Rose Bowl.
Everyone can rejoice. The planets, stars, and cosmos have aligned.. and the BCS is will shortly be abolished.
No conference championship -- no national title. When CU punked Nebraska 62-36, and Nebraska didn't even PLAY for the conference title, they shouldn't have gone to the national championship, and it was obvious. Granted, Oklahoma is a HELL of a team, but they don't have a conference championship. You can't be the best team in the nation if you're not the best team in your conference. Who would have thought that this whole season would have come down to Syracuse beating Notre Dame and Hawaii beating Boise State.
I'm 19. What's the point. I know in college football that the later you lose, the worse it is. You still didn't address the 2 points. BTW, Miami should have been #1. They won their last game and they beat Notre Dame with equal records. WTF was Holtz b****ing about. It's not like I'm saying OU is the NC. I'm saying they deserve to play in the MNC game because of their whole season and who they lost to. Maybe that's not how it's worked out in the past. If I'm 30 or 14, it doesn't matter. The BCS sucks. Relying on the poll like they did awhile back sucks too. 8 team playoff would eliminate all this crap.
USC doesn't have a conference championship either. And if they did, would it mean much? Does an ACC championship mean much? Hawaii beat Boise State? That sucks.
In my opinion, you almost HAVE to have a Conference Championship game in conferences where you don't play everyone. K-State deserved a shot at OU and they took advantage. For example, I think it's a joke that Ohio St. and Iowa didn't play each other last year. That Iowa team could have very possibly beat the Buckeyes last year...
The point is that before the BCS, a team that was voted #1 in both polls didn't get SHUT OUT of the NC game. I'll say that again - USC will be #1 in both polls but yet will not get to play in the NC game thanks to the stupid f*cking BCS. If you can't realize that is f*cked up, then it is no use arguing with you about this. And you keep touting MOV being so important to OU if it was used. Um, why do you think that? They were already #1 like in every computer poll and that was with MOV NOT being used, dude! So, your argument there makes no sense. So, OU goes from #1 to #1 in all of the computer polls if MOV was being used? But like I said earlier, if MOV was used in the computer polls, it would definitely hurt OU right now. I will agree with you about a playoff. I think everyone agrees on that except the bastards that run college football. And as for the conference championship games, either make every BCS conference have one or not have them at all. But OU was favored by 2 touchdowns to win, if any team was ever a LOCK to win a conference championship game, it was this OU team (or at least according to all the experts). It would be different and I would feel sorry for OU losing this game if KSU, was um, like in the top 5 instead of like #13 with 3 losses.
BTW - tozai - I am sorry if I came across as rude or insulting to you. I guess I am in shock that OU can still play for the NC despite losing by 4 touchdowns to a team that was a 2 touchdown underdog to them.
