You think SAR wouldn't have 3 rings if he played on those lakers teams with shaq and kobe? give me a break. That team won a ring with samaki walker starting at PF. Why don't you make a poll to see how many so called "haters" there are here? Winning is a buy product of being on a good team. Mike james has a ring, would u take him over tmac?
And ya you really caught me, i've been on here everyday for almost 6 years waiting for a thread about horry so i could show my hate, get real
You are still hating. You know for A FACT Horry made important plays and hit shots that Won Games. SAR SUCKS. You are a hater. that's 1. GLORY FOR HORRY
my ass you've been here for 6 years. 100 posts? please. you're just jerry36. and if you've been for 6 years, you know you can't go off insulting great Rocket legends like that. GLORY FOR HORRY!
Instead of pointless insults and calling me a hater, make a pole and see how many haters there are here. And last time i checked, 2008-2002 is pretty close to 6....and saying he's not a HOF isnt exactly an insult considering you have not given a single reason as to why he is
GLORY FOR HORRY Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE Date: WED 06/14/1995 Section: Special Page: 1 Edition: 2 STAR Rockets tap power source in Horry/After keeping Barkley, Rodman in check, forward holds his own with Grant By JODY GOLDSTEIN Staff There are several reasons why Robert Horry wants to move back from power forward to small forward next season -- Charles Barkley, Dennis Rodman and, now, Horace Grant. But there could be one problem with Horry's plan: He has done his job too well. As this year's playoffs have progressed, Horry has been forced to face off with foes who as a rule weren't going to be stopped. Phoenix's Barkley (who might technically be a small forward but plays like a power forward) would get his points. San Antonio's Rodman would get his rebounds. The most that could be wished for was to keep the superstars contained and not let them put on a show. They haven't. Horry kept a rein on Barkley, holding the Suns star to 22.3 points per game, including a personal-low five in Game 3 of the Western Conference semifinals. Rodman, who gets most of his points inside on putbacks, scored only 6.7 per game. He pulled down 15 boards per game, but that represented a below-average series for the league's top rebounder. And Orlando's Grant, a three-time NBA champion as a former member of the Chicago Bulls, hasn't fared any better against Horry. Most experts had the battle at power forward favoring the Magic, but Grant has been held in check during the first three games of the NBA Finals. He had his best performance in Game 3, scoring 18 points. But after scoring 10 in the opening period, Grant was allowed only eight more by Horry through the remainder of the game. Grant scored 15 points in Game 1 and was held to 10 in Game 2. And while Grant, the league's 14th-leading rebounder during the regular season, has averaged 12 boards per game in the Finals, Horry has largely offset that by averaging nine rebounds himself and helping teammates get to missed shots before Grant. "I've been able to pull him (Grant) away from my basket by making my outside shots," Horry said. "As long as I'm making my outside shots, the position change is going to favor us because I can pull Grant out and Clyde (Drexler) crashes the boards like a "four' man (power forward). That opens things up for Dream (Hakeem Olajuwon) to make his move or Clyde to crash the boards." Grant compared Horry to Scottie Pippen, Grant's former Chicago teammate. Horry took it as a huge compliment. "That's a great comparison," Horry said. "Scottie Pippen is first-team All-Defense, first-team All-NBA, an All-Star, on the Dream Team. If I could do all that one day, I'd be extremely happy. Scottie Pippen is 20 times better than I am. He can do anything he wants to with the ball. But I think I have one thing on him. I think I shoot the ball just a little bit better." He certainly picks his moments, anyway. It was Horry's 3-pointer with 14.1 seconds left that pretty much sealed Game 3 for the Rockets. His back-to-back 3s in overtime put Game 1 well in hand. And while Game 2 wasn't his most impressive showing offensively -- he scored only 11 points -- Horry set an NBA Finals record with seven steals and also pulled down 10 rebounds. "I've said from Day 1 that Dream and Shaq (Shaquille O'Neal) are going to cancel each other out," Horry said. "It's up to the supporting cast. It's up to us to step up. There are going to be some nights where you can't, but you can't worry about it. You just have to get ready for the next night because it might be your turn. You just have to keep shooting because eventually it will fall for you. "I felt like I was really rolling at the beginning of the season until I got my (back) injury. But I'm coming back. I'm really starting to hit my outside jumper. It used to be where (opponents thought), "He's only going to drive.' Now, I've got them thinking, "Drive? Shoot?' The best thing is to keep the other team on the defensive end. They have to be on the defensive end because they don't know where I'm going to be on the court." As for his own defense, Horry modestly says, "It's improving. It's not where I want it to be. My feet aren't as quick as I want them to be. I'm getting slow and old, I guess (he turns 25 in August). I just want to try to keep my foot speed up and keep my lateral movement down because a lot of guys now are going by me quicker than they used to." But if Horry is having lapses, nobody has noticed. "Robert has been great for us throughout the playoffs," said Mario Elie, the Rockets' starting small forward. "Robert has been playing Barkley, Dennis Rodman. He's been playing All-Star players and holding his own. Why change now? He's taken Horace Grant away from the boards. Robert has been the best 3-point shooter on our team. He's hitting big shot after big shot. I think he's playing with tremendous confidence right now and he's been the key part. Right now, he should be the MVP of this playoffs." MVP? With Olajuwon, Drexler and O'Neal on the floor? "That's not true," Horry said. "You look at going up against a guy like Shaq. He's going to be one of the best players on down the road. Dream's still holding his own. This whole playoff series, he's been the MVP. He went up against the MVP (San Antonio's David Robinson), and he won that match, and he's winning the match against the scoring leader (O'Neal) now. He should be MVP." Added Rockets point guard Kenny Smith: "(Horry) has certainly been an integral part, but we don't win games without Dream. Dream is going to be the MVP of everything we ever do. But if you got a second vote between Clyde (Drexler) and Robert, they'd both deserve it. They've both been doing a great job." There's at least one person who can attest to that. "(Horry's) a very good basketball player, a talented guy," Grant said. "He's done all the things his teammates have asked of him. He's playing phenomenal basketball. He's certainly playing like he wants the MVP."
Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE Date: SAT 06/10/1995 Section: Special Page: 3 Edition: 3 STAR Leaving the shadows behindHorry gives Magic fits with defense, Finals-record 7 steals By W.H. STICKNEY JR. Staff ORLANDO, Fla. -- Hakeem Olajuwon is the Rocket most feared by opposing players. Kenny Smith is regarded as Houston's most potent outside weapon. But the player the Orlando Magic had the most concern for entering Game 2 of the NBA Finals Friday was Robert Horry, a jack-of-all-trades who appears to be mastering them all. Friday night, the Magic's worst fears were realized. Horry, a small forward who has riddled two earlier playoff foes from the power forward slot, did it one more time as the Rockets won 117-106 at the Orlando Arena. Horry scored 11 points and came up with an NBA Finals-record seven steals as the Rockets rolled to a league-record seventh straight victory on the road. "I kind of felt like I had a magnet on my hands out there," Horry said. "I was fortunate to step into the passing lanes, read their offense and play well." Play well indeed. Although Olajuwon came through with his usual mammoth game -- 34 points, 11 rebounds, four blocked shots -- and Sam Cassell came off the bench to tie his career playoff high with 31 points, it was the all-around play of Horry that may have had the most devastating effect on the Magic. "Robert, to use an old cliche, is really stepping up," said Rockets assistant coach Bill Berry. "He has really improved like crazy over the last month and a half. He had a great floor game tonight, he had several turnaround plays on defense where he just hustled back and broke up the play for the Magic. "We just can't say enough about his play. Offensively, he stepped up Wednesday night and got great 3-point shots. He's just all over the floor," said Berry. "He's rebounding much better, his energy level is just so high. His play has been real inspirational. And we're just real proud of him." To this point, Horry has used the playoffs as a personal forum for excellence. But until the Western Conference finals, he had been a rather silent contributor. With Olajuwon and trade acquisition Clyde Drexler getting the majority of the publicity, Horry had to be content with the acclaim he got for the defense he played against Charles Barkley and Dennis Rodman. It was while pestering Rodman in the San Antonio series that Horry began to step from the shadows and show his offensive skills. That has continued through the first two games of the Finals. "Anytime you get a guy playing power forward who can hit the 3s, it forces you to adjust," Magic assistant coach Rich Adubato said before Friday's game. "It presents problems. It spaces your defense." Friday night, it wasn't Horry's offense that bothered the Magic. It was his omnipresence on defense. He was credited with five steals in the first half, and at one point put a vise on 6-7 guard Anfernee Hardaway. His steal and fast-break layup gave the Rockets a 16-12 lead early in the game. His 3-point basket off a feed from Mario Elie with just under five minutes left in the half put the Rockets on top 50-32. "We wanted to come out tonight and jump on them early to take their crowd out of it," said Horry. "We were a lot more aggressive tonight than we were in the first game. "We wanted to make them work hard on every play, and that's what we did." Horry's seven steals broke the record of six shared by John Havlicek, Steve Mix, Maurice Cheeks and Isiah Thomas. The NBA playoff record is eight and is shared by Cheeks, Rick Barry, Lionel Hollins, Craig Hodges and Tim Hardaway, who did it twice. Horry, who had a big 3-pointer during the latter stages of Wednesday's 120-118 overtime victory, wasn't quite the same threat from the floor on Friday. He made only 1-of-5 from behind the arc and was 4-of-10. But he consistently attacked the boards and blocked two shots. And, oh, what a pick-pocket. "I was just getting back on defense," Horry said. "The thing they told me was don't worry about pressure and trying to help our guards out, just get back and watch "Shaq' (Magic center Shaquille O'Neal). "The thing about that team is they like to run a lot. And I was able to read the passing lanes because I think they got kind of frustrated when they weren't getting any fast-break points." Horry is riding the crest of a very large wave. The Rockets are on top 2-0 in the series. And play now shifts to Houston for two or three games. But Horry says this is not the time to become complacent. "To pop the cork on champagne again would be nice, but we can't think about that," he said. "We just have to take one game at a time and stay focused." Like an eagle-eyed sneak thief peering intentely at the ball in preparation for another steal.
trying to reason with you is like trying to reason with my dog so...im done, you can put every 0 time all star who averaged 7 and 5 in the HOF if you wish
People have given multiple reasons, you're just not acknowledging them. Here they are again, once more for your benefit. 1. 7 rings as a contributor, not "gimmes" like Gary Payton and others have gotten 2. Countless Big Shots 3. More playoff games than anyone 4. Never missed the second round Besides, as other posters have pointed out, it's not like the HOF is for the holiest of holies. They let broadcasters, shoe-makers, referees and *gasp* women in.
Astros: I want to talk to you about this, because I know you care. Please look deep in your heart. Deep. That's not deep enough. Please breathe. Close your eyes for a moment. Look closer. See Further. Even Further. Breathe deeply. Do you feel that? That feeling of love? If you can look inward and see the light, feel the light, understand that we are all unique and we are all one, if you can feel that, you will understand. You will understand that Robert Horry belongs in the Hall of Fame. Think of all the teams with great players who did not win. Who did not get past the first round. Who did not hit big shots. Feel the light. Look further. Understand. Robert Horry should be in the Hall of Fame. It is not about stats. It is not about PPG. It is about love, it is about glory, it is about greatness. It is about all that is good in the human spirit. It is eternal, it is fragile. It is beauty. It is love. If you can find your heart, you will know it. You will feel it. Robert Horry should be in the Hall of Fame. Tinman is here to protect you. He is here to help you find the truth. Embrace his message, even if the messenger scares you at first. There is so much love in this thread. So much, I can only hope to understand a fraction of it. I can feel it. Robert Horry in a fighter jet. Yes. YES. It is time for you. Be not afraid. Robert Horry should be in the Hall of Fame. Robert Horry should be in the Hall of Fame accepts you. Robert Horry should be in the Hall of Fame loves you.
Danny Ainge played with Bird, McHale, Parrish, and Johnson... all on the same team! He later played with Drexler and Barkley. He has two rings, five behind Horry. And really, if you're going to allow kickers in the football HOF and relief pitchers in baseball, why not Horry in basketball? He's the best Glue Guy in playoff history.
What did he contribute last year other then a cheap shot on Nash(which by the way i enjoyed)? reasons 3 and 4 and based on teams not horry as an individual player. He made big shots and had some great playoff games/moments but his body of work is nowhere near that of a hall of fame PLAYER(as he's not trying to get in as a show-maker as you say)
He compared a Rockets great to SAR and claimed SAR would make big shots if put in position. He claimed he would get 3 rings like if his xbox overheated.
I didn't say he would make big shots, do you think if those lakers teams with shaq and kobe had SAR instead of horry they win zero rings?
you compared a guy who's the all-time clutch playoff player to a guy who makes tmac look like a 20 time nba champion. you're a freaking hater. its obvious. this thread is embracing the historic record that Robert Horry has achieved and you keep putting your hater trash on it. don't worry. if you want to make this the most popular thread of all time, we'll do it cause no way i'll you trash our heroes! GLORY FOR HORRY!
Tinman: Never stop fighting until the fighting is done. Your knowledge and resources and heart and determination bespeak a great wisdom and deep roots in THE spirit. I have never bowed to anyone on Rockets loyalty and understanding of the meta, the eternal of those teams. I have made many pilgrimages, more than I can describe here. Some public, some private. Some successful, some less successful. But I bow to you. As an aside, I knew my girlfriend was "THE ONE" when she came up with the idea of baking Robert Horry a red velvet cake (because he said he missed his mom's red velvet cake when he had to play on Thanksgiving Day in an interview) and sneaking into the locker room during practice and putting it in front of his locker as an offering. We have been married for seven years, together for thirteen. However, for me, in my quest to be complete, a more righteous man, .. whole if you, inching towards the combined perfect spirits of Vernon Maxwell, Kenny Smith, Hakeem Olajuwon, Chucky Brown, Otis Thorpe, Clyde Drexler, Sammy Cassell, Carl Herrera, Mario Elie, Rudy Tomjanovich, Dick Vandervort, and even Bill Fitch andd Jim Peterson and Tom Henderson to some degree... I must forgive. Pray you now, forget and forgive. ~William Shakespeare And in my hour of darkness There is still a light that shines on me Shine until tomorrow Let it be I wake up to the sound of music Mother Mary comes to me Speaking words of wisdom Let it be ~Paul McCartney
Breathe. The answer to your question is yes, they would have won zero rings. Yes. We shall rejoice when you join us.
Cbrown, that was awesome! she baked you an Horry cake? wow!! Married for 7 years.. That's how many Championships Horry has! I hope you tell your kids and they tell their kids about how a great team and great heroes united you, your wife, us clutchfans, china, the world together. if it weren't for the heroic acts of that team, there wouldn't be clutch city and we'd end up with the oklahoma city Rockets or something. but God chose that team to unite us all and those players were blessed by God and we are just the keepers of the faith. We are true believers!
