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Big 12 Expansion rumors

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by tinman, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. Icehouse

    Icehouse Contributing Member

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    Better hope one of those 5 votes were from UT and OU. If not....
     
  2. MystikArkitect

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    I was agreeing with you. SEC owns the market as much as Big 12 wants to pretend it doesn't. ACC could easily be on the list later.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, gotcha.
     
  4. Brando2101

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    ALABAMA OWNS THE HOUSTON MARKET. NOT THE SEC.


    9 of the 10 SEC games involve Texas A&M or Alabama. Texas A&M obviously does well in Houston and Alabama is the ratings leader in the country. Adding UH will not stop people from watching A&M and Alabama.

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    This is why it makes sense to go to the pac 12 or ACC. The big 12 does not need to add UH to protect themselves in the Houston market. Fans of those big 12 teams will still watch the games. You're more likely going to get more UH fans actually watching the team play on TV which will be adding eyeballs. I mean, sure it'll be less overall views with the matchups UH would being in but not to the degree that you are suggesting.

    I'm willing to bet the No votes came from the Texas schools and OU.
     
  5. MystikArkitect

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    By your logic Oklahoma is the most popular Big 12 school in Houston.

    B12 is going to do what's in their best interest, just doesn't seem anyone knows what the hell that is exactly. I believe UH is at the bottom of their top 4 or just outside. If there's legit interest from ACC or P12 then UH becomes #1. Could be wrong but we'll see.
     
  6. gucci888

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    Issue with this is that you are assuming those UH/ACC games will automatically replace Big 12 games and not the SEC games. If ACC games replace SEC games, then it's really not net change for the Big 12. Obviously it hurts if replaces the Big 12 games but don't think you can assume that it automatically will.

    Another thing is that this is not a Houston or bust decision. Yes the Big 12 could solidify Houston but the graphic shows that the conference still has a large footprint despite the largest brand in the conference going through a really bad rough patch. So the question is whether you would rather add 2-3 additional games to the Houston list or possibly 5-6 in Orlando, Cincinnati, or Memphis? Obviously fabricating numbers but point is I'm sure there is a legit question as to what is better: solidifying one market is better or expanding to brand new ones.
     
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  7. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    Greg AbbottVerified account
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    Big 12 expansion is a non-starter unless it includes University of Houston. @UHouston
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    Small government!
     
  9. Newlin

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    What does Greg Abbott have to do with the expansion of the Big 12? How is he involved in the decision making process?
     
  10. gucci888

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    Nothing really but there'll be some political pressure to include UH just like there was in trying to keep A&M in. UH stands to gain almost 25M more in year one if included so good reason for Abbott wanting to keep that money in state.
    Ultimately it'll come down to money and whatever schools the current member schools will gain from the most.
     
  11. sammy

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    Fertitta hookin it up. Lol
     
  12. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    lol i dunno

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  13. dc rock

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    That is funny. A Democrat pushes a small, private, conservative university into the Big 12 and a Republican pushes a large, public, culturally diverse university in... $$$
     
  14. sammy

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    Is Abbott a UH alum? Richards is a Baylor alum. He getting paid.
     
  15. Newlin

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    Thanks for the explanation. Yes, I can understand why Abbott would want another Texas school in the conference. But, the way he was talking, it sounded like he actually had an official role in the selection process. So, just because Abbott wants UH in, it doesn't mean that it will happen.
     
  16. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    He ain't getting paid. The State of Texas is.
     
  17. Hippieloser

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    Abbott's a blowhard, strong-arm politician with nothing much to do. Talking tough out of his ass is his raison d'etre. Politically, I find him repellent, but the only thing shocking about his statement is how long it took a Texas governor to say it. I will now be voting Republican for life.
     
  18. cdrive

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    President of UT just tweeted in favor of UH joining the Big 12.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As we look at opportunities for Big 12 expansion, I support considering <a href="https://twitter.com/UHouston">@UHouston</a> for the conference. UH is a huge asset for Texas.</p>&mdash; Greg Fenves (@gregfenves) <a href="https://twitter.com/gregfenves/status/756222165591085056">July 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  19. gucci888

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    This can't be right. It is well known that UT is scared of UH and has been blockading them.
     
  20. Mr.Scarface

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    It is well-known Baylor was included in the Big 12 because of Ann Richards. Houston would have been included otherwise. Texas politics is slimy. However, it could benefit Houston this time.
     

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